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Old 10-26-2006, 10:49 AM
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Day 1, Table 2

So my first table pretty much just dismantled. Three people left, another to the bathroom, someone to dinner and no one on our waiting list. I played one hand of 4 handed against Wannabe, raising J4 on the button to steal the blinds, then decided to leave the dead table and get back on the list for the other 2/4 table. Up $75 for this table. Yay me!

I balla’d up and asked the dealer before that hand (not knowing I was only going to play one) if we could play for reduced rake. MAAM to my left said, “What does that mean?” Standard.

So the wait for the next table was at least 40 excruciating minutes. It sucked because I was only staying from 5pm-9pm. That’s very little playing time when over 1.5 hours of it is in the queue (for you British types).

I took a trip to the restroom during my wait, walking again past all the slot monkeys, mindlessly pushing the “spin” button. That really got me to thinking. What is the difference between them and us?

It’s really not as simple at all as the answer I’ll give. Some just want some easy fun, a little entertainment. Others are actually looking to hit it big.

We have some of the same motivations they do. Some of us may want to hit it big. The huge difference is, we are willing to do the work it takes to have the opportunity to win more. Our road may be longer than theirs, but there is absolutely no guarantee that they will ever hit the big jackpot.

There’s no guarantee for us either, but our method is sure as hell more likely to succeed. You might say our gambling is more secure. Does that make us more risk averse than them? More driven? I had a lot of time to think during all the driving, waiting and observing so pardon me for the philosophy or whatever you want to call it. Back to the action.

Table 2 Lineup:

I was in seat 4. Seat two was OPA from Table 1, LPA game to remind you. Seat 5 ended up being The Straddler from table one who got on the wait list right behind me. The only other seat I can remember clearly is seat 9, or Asian Drunk Rebuyer, loose aggressive, with a bit of bluff in him, which I didn’t realize until Day 2. We’ll call him Chatty.



I was making some pretty decent laydowns that evening. Ones that I was maybe less likely to make online.

KK to me, I raise and get 2 CCs and the blinds. Oh joy, not! Flop comes K39…all spades. F***! Sure I like the set, but the mono board is going to have anybody w/ a zero of spades or higher drawing on me. I c-bet and get called in at least two places. I’m praying for the board to pair on the turn so my pulse will drop. Blank. I lead out again and get called by the same guys. Stupid river is a spade. I’m first to act and check, one guy bets and OPA raises. I curse in my head and fold. OPA shows AQs and drags the pot. He flopped it. I would have loved that board to pair because he was paying me off nicely.

Later I had a raised up AJs on the button with 5 others. Flop of J94, two hearts, I had diamonds. UTG leads into me, a couple callers. In my head I’m all “FU pal” and drop the neutron bomb of a $2 raise on the him and the callers. He and another called. Turn: 2x. I bet, get called by two. River: 7x. I bet and only he calls w/ KJ. Dominated! Booyah!

Another hand I’m in the sb w/ K4s, 6 limpers, so I complete. Flop comes K4X, two suited. Check please? I c/r the field, turn is something innocuous. I get a bet from whoever calls there. River is another 4. Very nice. I can’t remember if I got one or more bets there. Ship it.

The Straddler had straddled a couple times when it was my BB. That has nothing to do with the next hand though. I pick up A4 in the BB. 3L (limpers), I check. Flop is AXX. I check to The Straddler who had limped UTG. She leads out, we get at least one caller. I’m feeling frisky so I C/R. She calls and says, “Uh oh.” Turn I bet and she calls. I wasn’t so sure my hand is was good at that point. I check the river and she also does, showing A7s, her 7 plays and I lose that one. On second thought, she wasn’t the best person to make that move on. Now Chatty would be the guy to do it against. She’s less likely to bet middle pair or something like that from UTG. I should have known that.

Finished that table up $2. Total nights revenue, $77. I drove home and hit the sack, not intending to return the next day.

Next day…maybe today, maybe tomorrow.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Day 1, Table 2

True ballas get the rake reduction, and then up the dealer toke to more than compensate for the difference.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:10 AM
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That's why I sir, am no true balla.
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Old 10-26-2006, 11:50 AM
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Hey dude.

I would just bet the flop in that K4 hand.
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Old 10-26-2006, 12:23 PM
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The A4 check-raise sucks.

Either bet out or check-call.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:50 PM
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Hey dude.

I would just bet the flop in that K4 hand.

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Wait a minute, so would I. I think I did. Flops get checked through too much live. The only way I would C/R is if I had a PFR to my left and I'm certain they'll bet. I didn't have the details of that hand, just K4 (boat) as a note. Bad reporting, which is why I'm not a journalist.
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Old 10-26-2006, 01:51 PM
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The A4 check-raise sucks.

Either bet out or check-call.

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Agreed. That would be my online play too. I made all kinds of live mistakes that I hate myself for.
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Old 10-26-2006, 02:59 PM
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Day 2

Finishing at noon for training on Tuesday made it an easy decision to head to the casino on my way back home, sort of way back anyway.

I got there about 2ish, changed into jeans and t-shirt after signing up for 2/4 and 3/6 lists. Only one of each going at this hour. I wanted to be comfortable. Got seated at 2/4 again.

Cast:

Seat 1: Bluffy McGee, takes a shot at pots in late position when several people check…and there are always several people in these pots. Hasn’t yet learned that bluffing in this game is often not worth it.

Seat 2: OPA from Day 1/Dream Girl. Dream Girl arrived with less than an hour of play left for me. Played anything, raised randomly, actually said, “Anybody who thinks they can make a living at this game is fooling themselves.” A total target for any of us. I was on monkey tilt at that point though so I was playing nearly as poorly as she.

Seat 3: Portly, loose passive

Seat 4: Loose Latino. At least I think he was Latin. He had the accent, but he was a pale Latin guy. Nice fella, sucked at poker.

Seat5: Befolder

Seat 6: Old Timer who was loose passive, passive. Talked to me often about the other players. Openly criticized Dream Girl later that night when she arrived.

Seat 7: X

Seat 8: Smug TAG or SMAG

Seat 9: Y

Seat 10: Becky, no on of importance.

Early on in this session I did really well, made full value for my hands, and played tight. Later, I felt the lure of boredom kick in. Playing only one table when you’re used to three really hit me. The fact that I again felt like I was easily top 2 on the table made me force the action too much with no hands. I mean I played some really crappy stuff at some points. I couldn’t count on three fingers the number of times I played these hands outside the blinds in the past year. Results oriented thinking got the best of me. Here are some hands.

A9 MP1, L, L, I raised these two guys knowing they were weak. Right after I threw my chips in I knew it was a mistake because people were cold calling 2 bets w/ crap and playing this hand multiway isn’t any good. What the hell happened to my solid game?

Surprisingly, the rest of the field actually folded. Very rare. Limpers called. Flop A98. Portly and LL check, I bet, two calls, turn, 9x, I bet again and just called by LL. Turn T, hoping somebody made a straight and was dumb enough to bet it. These live folks are. It’s beautiful. I got just the one bet. NH

A2h not long after. I limp from some position, no idea where. Always multi way. Flop: Jh8h2x. I did whatever would be correct to get two bets in here w/ a pair and nut flush draw. Turn Qx. I now remember I was in some early position and checked this card. It was either checked through or for one bet. River 6h. Presto. I bet out again and at least got called. I missed too many bets during this trip when I wanted to C/R and was pretty sure someone would bet. Apparently there is a lot of raising (a lot at least for live) on the flop and then they don’t follow it up like you’d expect on the turn.

AK later raised up by me hit a A7A77 board. Beat out TT on this one.

One of my horrible loose tilt plays was limping with Motown, J5, yes take away my players club now. I made an excellent call though to make up for it. Five people in. Flop was 458. I bet out, got called in three spots. Bad bet in my opinion. Nobody is folding and I knew it. Remember I was tilting. Turn 7, making a straight possible. I was ready to fold to any bet after my check. It checked through. Hmmmm. Bluffy McGee and LL were still in the hand. The river was another 7. LL checked, I checked, other checked, Bluffy bet as last to act. I thought I had him beat. He would have bet before if he had any of that board. To my surprise, LL called, which made it more difficult for me to justify a call w/ 3rd pair and no straight. LL would have raised w/ the 6, and possibly even the 7. I just had this feeling that I’d be folding the best hand. I made a calculated call and took it down w/ a two pair, 7s and 5s. Bluffy had KT and LL had AQ, which of course he never raised PF. I saw every hand imaginable limped. AA, QQ. Wow! Made me rethink my own raising. I was proud of this call here. One of the few things I had to be proud of that day.

Had to lay down KK again to a four flush on the turn later. I had no redraw.

I made a nice bluff w/ just Q high against the right players. The board was 998K9. The betting, or lack of completely indicated nobody had any of it and I knew they wouldn’t be noticing the same thing. I snagged that pot.

I have QQ misplayed noted, but not how I did it.

Dream girl was added late as I said and she had this one ramble about how people always raise Q7 and she hates it, because they win with it. What!?

22 BB or UTG L. Usually ok in these games. Flop is 445. There are lets say four of us, not as many as I’d like limping w/ 2s, but that was not normal. One check, Bluffy does what he does and bets, LL calls. I decide to C/R here, figuring I very likely have the best hand and that Bluffy is bluffing. I still didn’t like it after I did it though because they’ve probably got overs and if they’ve got separate ones, they’ve got 12 outs twice against me. Not the worst play though.

Turn was a beautiful 2. I bet out and was just called by LL, who also called my river bet.

At one point I was up $90 quickly, then I suddenly got hand after hand of nothing to play and had to sit and watch all these chips being thrown in and won by complete idiots. That got the best of me and I started playing marginal to really marginal hands hoping I could make up the difference post flop. I made my flop and turn folds at first, but then I started going too far. Then forcing it. It was bad.

Oooh, another hand that hurt was against SMAG. We had had a couple jousts where he sucked out on me, and then his hands held up in some call downs.

The one that really hurt was my AK vs. his TT. He raised from UTG2, I 3 bet after all fold to my BB. He calls. Flop is KKT. Suhweetness! I bet, he raises, I’m all too happy to 3 bet. He caps. Hmmm. I started to give him some credit for TT at this point, but I also had him on KQ, QQ or JJ, AA. Turn is a Q. So if I’m following my hand range, I shouldn’t want to bet this right? I haven’t done the exact math. I bet out again, he raised, I called and then called a river bet.

He had TT. Son of a bitch! That tore down a lot of the stack I’d built.

Funny thing is, he got destroyed by LL in three hands later. Two in a row where they were heads up by the turn, LL hit a club flush twice and raised SMAG on the river beating his AA, both times. It was awesome!

Then he finished him off as SMAG threw in his last chips of a full rack and LL rivered two pair on him. Oh the humanity.

At least the chips were on the table in a place that was easy to get them from, directly to my right. The way I was playing though, it wasn’t going to happen.

I tilted off until 7pm and they started their Crazy Pineapple tourney and I had to head home, -$43 for the day. I was super pissed, only at myself. In a way I’m glad it happened. I pride myself on being disciplined or at least I know I need to focus on it.

Lessons learned from these days:

1) If you have the best hand, bet it in these games. Don’t count on the last aggressor to keep being aggressive.
2) Do not be results oriented live. It’s harder for me when I can see the stacks and know exactly what I’ve got up or down. The problem is I really like knowing. I think it hurt me though and I might have to do uneven stacks or just a mound to get it off my mind.
3) Put the training wheels on a bit more at the live table for now until you can handle being bored. Stick to what you know works preflop.

I ended up +$34 for the trip, but I feel like I lost. I stewed about my mistakes a lot on the first part of the drive home, but then I pulled in to get gas in Salem and went in the to mini mart where I saw the most ironic item to be found sold in a convenience store. Hanging on a rack near the counter was this:



I found it extremely amusing.

I can see it now. Dude down on his luck walks into the convenience store with $5 to his name.

Dude: Man, I could really use some money. Maybe I could rob this place. No they’ll ID me. What I need is a…hey what’s that on that rack? I could buy that, go out side, come back in, rob the place and get my $5+ back. Sweet.

Seriously AM/PM. You’re selling accessories to the very people who are robbing you? Brilliant!!! While you’re at it, why not carry some guns too?

Hope you guys had at least a little fun reading. This was a good thing for me to do to get ready for what to expect in Vegas.
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Old 10-27-2006, 12:54 AM
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Man, he's leaving us hanging. Bump for update! Don't be 2+2 Wannabe!

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what'd he ever do to you? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I think this is the guy who started an kick ass TR in the B&R Forum about a month or two ago and had some updates and promised to finish, but then dropped off the face of the Earth and didn't finish. I read that one too. Good stuff...til there wasn't anymore.

His reports were really good though, not run of the mill stuff.

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oops, my bad then, i didn't think wookie was actually referring to wannabe. I thought he was just telling you not to be a wannabe. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 10-27-2006, 01:40 AM
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BF got it right. 2+2WB had an amazing trip report rolling, and then his girlfriend found it [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]. It's in the running for best thing posted on 2+2 even incomplete. I suggest searching for it, because that's the bar by which Vegas trip reports are measured. It's in B&M.
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