Sklansky says...

[jonyy6788]

I have been amazed at the number of times I've had QQ-AA slowrolled on me at NL25/50 6max. I will look down and find KQ or something on the button, will make a standard raise and get cold called by QQ-AA. They then make some little donk min. raise (usually on the turn). It's really been aggrevating me.

Back to topic I guess: I recommmend you never slowplay AA UNLESS a 90/40 is sitting on the button or something similar.

[JackAll]

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What i want to know is, do you ever limp in with AA or KK, when & why?

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Look through your poker tracker db and you'll see that a ridiculously large amount of your earnings are from overpairs and AK. I mean like almost all of your earnings are from that. You are losing massive value by not raising and playing as aggressivley as possible with these hands.

Keep tricky play for when you get to 1000nl and up.

[lippy]

FWIW, if people are folding to your raises, you're probably not raising PF enough. There is a reason you should be raising hands like A6s, 98s; so you get action when you have AA, KK, etc.

[Chubbers]

I'm normally sitting at around 16%/8% which i think is a fair PF agression %. If this is low though let me know. I'll continue to play AA&KK as suggested though. Just wondering if you guys ever mixed up your play... which (i believe is good advice) based on the above i shouldn't worry about at this low a limit.

Cheers all.

[ymu]

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I'm normally sitting at around 16%/8% which i think is a fair PF agression %. If this is low though let me know. I'll continue to play AA&KK as suggested though. Just wondering if you guys ever mixed up your play... which (i believe is good advice) based on the above i shouldn't worry about at this low a limit.

Cheers all.

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16/8 is pretty tight. Find some more hands to raise with in LP, after loose limpers or when folded to you in LP. They probably won't notice that your range is tighter in EP and you'll get a lot more action on your good hands.

[bsheck]

Virtually never, though I will simply flat-call a raise sometimes in late postion against a megalomaniac in front of me.

[Freelancer]

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I'm normally sitting at around 16%/8% which i think is a fair PF agression %. If this is low though let me know. I'll continue to play AA&KK as suggested though. Just wondering if you guys ever mixed up your play... which (i believe is good advice) based on the above i shouldn't worry about at this low a limit.

Cheers all.

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Only 8% preflop agression, I'm running on 25/15... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
But hey I like agression on the tables.

[sudic]

Doyle Brunson actually recommends limping in early and middle position with AA and KK if you don't have any action ahead of you.

But he prefaces that part of his books (SS and SS2) with the fact that you are playing 'good thinking players'.

Those aren't his exact words but I think you get the message.

[Shaddux]

If I were you, I would find better tables and raise more in LP.

I run 18/13 btw.

[Agamemnon]

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the only reason to limp with aa/kk pf is for deception. The standard play is to raise. Since we're playing at the micro limits, in general, we dont need to mix up our play too much.

The majority of players we play against are not observant. If we raise in early position, most of them dont see any difference than if we open raise from CO. You only need to mix up your play against observant, thinking opponants... Against random donks, taking a less EV root to mix up our play is usually just a waste of time.

Obviously its importamt not to become too easiliy readable. But as long as your raising range pf is more than aa/kk/qq/ak, then against your average player i see no reason to try and disguise AA by not raising it. I think Sklanksys advice is more targeted towards higher stakes where deception is key.

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Good post!