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#43
10-01-2006, 05:49 AM
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Re: industry giants say, \"Not so fast\"
why can we play on WSEX but not other sites if the only thing that was banned was the depositing of money into an online gambling site? Playing online isnt illegal nor is withdrawing. Are people still allowed to bet on sports and horse racing online just not poker? I wasn't sure about this part and if its true they will have no way of enforcing this.
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#44
10-01-2006, 10:23 AM
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Re: industry giants say, \"Not so fast\"
I suspect that the major sites will claim:
1) Because of the carve outs for US-based businesses (for horseracing, fantasy sports leagues), the new law will violate WTO agreements by discriminating against foreign-based businesses. They will claim that the US-based businesses are essentially in the same sector (i.e. internet gaming) and, as such, competitors. 2) Therefore, they are not going to cut off US players until a WTO tribunal rules on the matter.
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#45
10-01-2006, 10:46 AM
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Re: industry giants say, \"Not so fast\"
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I suspect that the major sites will claim: 1) Because of the carve outs for US-based businesses (for horseracing, fantasy sports leagues), the new law will violate WTO agreements by discriminating against foreign-based businesses. They will claim that the US-based businesses are essentially in the same sector (i.e. internet gaming) and, as such, competitors. 2) Therefore, they are not going to cut off US players until a WTO tribunal rules on the matter. [/ QUOTE ] Nice try but companies don't file WTO claims, countries do. This route smells like another Antigua WTO action at best, I don't see Blair filing a UK WTO claim against Georgy Boy. I like where your heart is on this one tho bro.
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#46
10-01-2006, 10:48 AM
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Re: industry giants say, \"Not so fast\"
One thing to keep in mind is that sites did not just immediately start banning players in Italy when they made online gambling illegal. Now, obviously, the US example is totally different and the issue of arrests may come into play here, but the Italy example is the only one we have to go from. I think it points to the idea that it's less likely the major sites will start not allowing American customers.
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#47
10-01-2006, 10:49 AM
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Re: industry giants say, \"Not so fast\"
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"The time to oppose this bill was before it passed. It is going to be much, much more difficult to do anything about it now that it has passed." What exactly were they supposed to do before the bill was passed? From what I understand, offline companies can't hire lobbying groups or donate to politicians. That means the only thing they "could" have done was send out mass emails to members (some of them did). I suspect most did not want to scare their membership over something that almost everyone agreed had little or no chance to pass. Now that an actual law has passed, they have something they can fight. Before, it was just a bill moving through the US congress, and they being companies based in another country had no legitimate way to weigh in, correct? I'm not an expert on these things by any means, but I'm pretty sure that online poker sites were handicapped by the fact that they're not based in the USA and therefore can't take part in our mucked up lawmaking. That being said, I'm thoroughly disgusted with poker industry leaders here in the USA like 2p2 who sat on their hands when they could have at least matched what several online poker sites did and email their members that there was a threat. [/ QUOTE ] If they are gonna use the excuse that they [the online sites] were handicapped by the fact of being located offshore outside of U.S. jurisdiction as a reason they could do nothing or participate in U.S. policymaking, then what is making statements after the bill has passed gonna change? THEY ARE STILL HANDICAPPED! Flight_Risk
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#48
10-01-2006, 11:29 AM
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Re: industry giants say, \"Not so fast\"
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LET US GOGOGOGOGOG!!!!!! [/ QUOTE ]
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#49
10-01-2006, 12:53 PM
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Re: industry giants say, \"Not so fast\"
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Nice try but companies don't file WTO claims, countries do. This route smells like another Antigua WTO action at best, I don't see Blair filing a UK WTO claim against Georgy Boy. I like where your heart is on this one tho bro. [/ QUOTE ] Blair will be leaving office soon. I expect someone much more anti-Bush to be put in power
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#50
10-01-2006, 12:56 PM
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Re: industry giants say, \"Not so fast\"
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[ QUOTE ] Nice try but companies don't file WTO claims, countries do. This route smells like another Antigua WTO action at best, I don't see Blair filing a UK WTO claim against Georgy Boy. I like where your heart is on this one tho bro. [/ QUOTE ] Blair will be leaving office soon. I expect someone much more anti-Bush to be put in power [/ QUOTE ] It doesnt matter who is in power. Either the tax revenues on profits from US players justifies the effort to keep the US market in the game (and all of the ramifications under the WTO and other trad treaties) or it doesnt.
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