How Bout These "Loopholes/End Runs"? (poker sites take note)

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For depositing into sites:

1) You transfer by normal means to neteller
2) You then transfer from neteller to another e-wallet called "beteller" located in Costa Rica, which funds a poker site
3) You cashout from poker site back the same 2 step way

For IP issues:

1) Site client software routs to another site in another country which then routes to site server in Costa Rica
2) Sites use something similar to .net sites to attract new players but which don't actually allow that site's client downloads, instead linking you to a 3rd site where you download


Critical assumptions: Costa Rica which currently is home to so many sports sites which already don't care about current US laws which already were fairly clear under the wire act as sports betting over the net being illegal, or apparently extradite for violation of such betting laws, still don't after this bill is signed, the sites relocate there, and the execs never travel to the US.


OK lawyers, this work or not? I mean if every whorehouse that calls itself an escort service can advertise in the newspaper, then why not this or similar workaround? Basically you are adding an extra step or middleman to the existing ones.

[BluffTHIS!]

So any lawyers awake yet?

[chicagoY]

I hope it works. Thanks for taking time to think stuff up about it.

[BluffTHIS!]

Thanks. I'm as desparate to find workarounds as everyone is. Unfortunately, despite the fact that the big sites make billions and *should* have the best legal advice, they have through this whole legal mess and in other ways shown themselves not to be overly bright.

[DeNutza]

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For depositing into sites:

1) You transfer by normal means to neteller
2) You then transfer from neteller to another e-wallet called "beteller" located in Costa Rica, which funds a poker site
3) You cashout from poker site back the same 2 step way

For IP issues:

1) Site client software routs to another site in another country which then routes to site server in Costa Rica
2) Sites use something similar to .net sites to attract new players but which don't actually allow that site's client downloads, instead linking you to a 3rd site where you download


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Problem is if they block neteller, you wont be able to
FUND it...withdrawing from neteller to bank account
should be no problem...

I propose poker sites put links to online canadian
bank accounts that only require a faxed SS# and
ID...To keep it legal, all you have to do is show
you have a foreign bank account on your tax returns.
(100% legal here too). And your bank will never
block an EFT from bank to bank.

Mr K, says we dont have to worry about IP blocks...
Im not 100% convinced though...In any case, why
dont sites just launch a freakin satellite and
give all the players free sat. dishes, or somehow
send the signal to existing DISH/DIRECTTV subs...These are
billion dollar companies..they can actually afford
something this EXTREME.

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They won't have a reason to block neteller if they don't directly link to a poker site. That is the job of the second transfer e-wallet site which is based in Costa Rica or a similarly friendly country.

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I propose poker sites put links to online canadian
bank accounts that only require a faxed SS# and
ID...To keep it legal, all you have to do is show
you have a foreign bank account on your tax returns.
(100% legal here too). And your bank will never
block an EFT from bank to bank.


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[BluffTHIS!]

If you two mean us bank -> canadian bank -> neteller -> poker site, or even just us bank -> canadian bank -> poker site, then that works for me, *assuming* such canadian banks do let you start an account like that. Of course whether average joe is willing to go to that trouble, like with what I or others have suggested is unknown.

[DeNutza]

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They won't have a reason to block neteller if they don't directly link to a poker site. That is the job of the second transfer e-wallet site which is based in Costa Rica or a similarly friendly country.

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Ok, I see where your coming from..However, the gov. will
decide later after bill is signed, who to block, etc.
So if they suspect Neteller is doing something
shady, they just simply block them....

Ive been saying for years, Neteller needs to establish
itself in other things besides gambling...Auction
site, merchants, etc....They never made a big push on
this, now they will regret it.

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I agree. Which is why fps e-passporte is in better shape since their primary goal is to allow you to protect your actual credit card account info by using them as a middleman and their virtual credit card account that acts like a debit card.