AVERAGE SPEED VIII: GAME THREAD

[Hornacek]

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Alright, if(when) luckay turns out to be a wolf, we should definately look @ MDD. All of round 2 he pushed for chuckles saying things such as 'Vote chuckles if you want a wolf'...'DONT VOTE LUCKAY VOTE CHUCKLES IF YOU WANT A WOLF' etc etc.

Its probably going to be a luckay lynch today, and i've been fine with that since yesterday

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This post by Magra strikes me as off. Someone has already covered this post, but I'd like to elaborate some more. If/when Luckay shows up as wolf? Did Magra even consider for a second that Luckay was a villager? There was absolutely no reason to believe that Luckay was a (naive) villager.

Also, he brings MDD into the discussion. Why wouldn't he wait until we find out the identity of Luckay to make this assertion? I think he's trying to look good pre-emptively, and by possibly separating himself from partner MDD. The only reason he'd want to get that out into the open is if he thought he might get killed that night. There was no reason to believe this! However, Magra the wolf knew there was no way he'd die at night, so he tries to put on his villager face.

Vote Magra.

I'm gonna keep on reading...

[Hornacek]

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One of the reasons I ended up siding with a Tokyo vote over a books vote at the end was because I was getting the nagging feeling that thebram had peeked Tokyo as a wolf. Obviously I didn't want to bring that up in public at the time, but now it's obvious that this is impossible, which makes me even happier with a vote of thebram after luckay is gone.

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So you think Bram is a wolf because Tokyo!! showed up as a seer?

[soah]

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Soah is spending a whole lot of time defending himself, and arguing quite vocally. I honestly don't recall him from other games, so this is definitely not characteristic, because I am pretty sure I have played with him before. In general, long defenses are put up by power roles (duh). I don't even think soah has had any real pressure on him, unless you count a one bobo crusade pressure.

I will stop sitting on the fence and put a soah vote in now.

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This is a bunch of crap. You've played one long game and some turbos with me. In the other long game I was a wolf. In the turbos I obviously have much less time to think and write. Of course I sound different in this game. And you are going to vote for me, not because of any evidence against me, but for defending myself? I am not going to let myself get bandwagoned by people who are LYING in their evidence against me. In general, I do not defend myself too much, because usually people have valid reasons for voting for me, so I understand that they are doing their villagery jobs to look at me. In this game, the accusations against me have been utter [censored]. Even BobO has given up and admitted that his assault on me was baseless. And now you read through that and your assessment is that I'm a wolf?

[soah]

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One of the reasons I ended up siding with a Tokyo vote over a books vote at the end was because I was getting the nagging feeling that thebram had peeked Tokyo as a wolf. Obviously I didn't want to bring that up in public at the time, but now it's obvious that this is impossible, which makes me even happier with a vote of thebram after luckay is gone.

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So you think Bram is a wolf because Tokyo!! showed up as a seer?

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thebram voted Tokyo at the start of Day 2. I asked him a couple times to join in our discussion, and he was just like "Nope!" That didn't seem villagery, so I voted for him. As the day progressed and he still never showed up to contribute, I got the nagging feeling that it was *possible* that he was the seer, and had peeked Tokyo. It wasn't a strong feeling... but it was enough of a feeling that when it came down to choosing between books and Tokyo, I went with Tokyo. Now that we know that thebram could not have been the seer and peeked Tokyo, I still like him as a wolf.

[soah]

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EVERY SINGLE NAME on that list was mentioned as a suspect by multiple people the previous days. So this argument is a stinky pile of [censored], because that's what you did. Like I said in my post, you've given a reason you COULD vote for each person on that list. You weren't willing to do it "until you got more evidence". Which means, once enough people have voted for them so you can continue the bandwagon.

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Yeah, so I could say I'm not going to vote for someone today, and then do it anyway, in order to make myself look good. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[durron597]

[0] aaronk56 voted for thebram
[2] BobOjedaFan voted for thebram
[2] chuckleslovakian voted for BobOjedaFan
[0] dmk
[0] fnord_too voted for soah
[0] GetThere1Time
[0] hornacek voted for magra
[1] magra
[0] McNutty voted for MDoranD
[1] mdorand voted for chuckleslovakian
[0] nicholasp27
[0] ScottHoward
[2] soah voted for thebram
[4] thebram voted for chuckleslovakian
[0] wdcbooks voted for BobOjedaFan
[0] wmonfor voted for thebram
[0] zurvan voted for soah

[Hornacek]

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Soah the point is Day 1 you said you couldn't be a wolf because you voted for Patton, you made it appear like you got him killed. Then when i said you did that intentionally to look innocent you said that your vote didn't matter that much and you casted it 7 hrs before day ended.

That isn't even really why I suspect you though. You are doing TOO many things ONLY wolves do. You are tryign to get me killed and predicting that I will be a villager when I die. You seem to believe I am the 'worst villager ever' above believing I'm a wolf. If that's the case, why are you voting for me? Oh yeah, because YOU'RE a wolf. Why do you never interact with Magra and why is Magra doing a lot of the same crap you're doing. Oh yeah, because he's a wolf too. The two of you are so obvious and it makes me want to gauge my eyes out that you guys aren't being voted for.

I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE BOTH SOAH AND MAGRA ARE WOLVES

These picks are BETTER than seer picks. A seer has a .01% chance of misreading his PMs. There is a 0% chance I am wrong.

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Can someone please tell me if this insanity is villager BobO or wolf BobO? I think sooner or later BobO needs to go. He is a confusion-causing wolf. As a villager, he is even more confusing.

[soah]

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As for xorbie, in order to use his death to implicate me, you must assume all of the following:


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For someobody who likes to insult my reading comprehension, you seem to have a serious issue with it.

I DON'T THINK XORBIE'S DEATH IMPLICATED YOU. OR BRAM.

I've said that like three times, but you like to pretend that's why I'm voting you. Probably because it's your only defense.

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Yet you initially said:

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Considering that xorbie put in a throwaway mention of him (which could be a good strategy for seer, since he addressed it to bobo. Who is sure to see that post & bring it up later), I think that's where I want to start today.

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Also, claiming that xorbie was killed for peeking me as a wolf is ridiculous. HE HAD ME ON HIS VILLAGER LISTS.

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His second last post of the day had you as a wolf.

I'll quote it again, just in case you missed it twice:

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bobo

i am starting to think you may be right on soah. at any rate, with worthless and patton down (or lucky/tokyo if one of them is faking, point is we have two wolves), we just need to off everyone else on my list.


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This is the kind of post I imagine xorbie would make as seer, with one peek, having found a wolf.

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As for "my only defense" ... lol? If you're not using the xorbie argument, then the only argument that you have against me is that I posted analysis on too many people at the same time. I am done defending myself against that, it's just absurd.

[aaronk56]

I guess we could lynch Magra and see but if he turns up as a villager, which I feel he will, where do we go from there?

Zurvan ignoring Soah for the time being, what are your thoughts on Magra?

[ScottHoward]

hey all
i read day 1 and some of day 2 last night. long story short, i like a books,bram,chuck, or bobo vote today
books mainly because of something he said on day 2 about the bobo kill not being a seer peek. it made absolutely no sense to me, mainly because bobo wasn’t killed?. if somebody could explain it, that would be awesome.
bram seemed awfully excited to get a Tokyo vote going right away on day 2, as others were (horn). I didn’t see any reason to be suspicious of tokyo, so it was odd to me.
books and bram also avoided the patton lynch.
id like to vote chuck or bobo to tie up the day 1 loose ends. if chuck and or bobo is a wolf, that would produce a couple great options.
I guess I could see a horn lynch today as well.
books,bram,chuck,bobo,horn. any of these today is fine with me.