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Old 09-08-2006, 09:18 PM
DonkeyKongSr DonkeyKongSr is offline
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Can someone explain the "inside?" technique or point me to it's origin or explanation? This is a long ass thread and searching for inside? makes will take me even more time than reading the thread to get what "inside?" is. Thanks.
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:22 PM
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Maybe we could go clubbing- You are trying to subcommunicate "perhaps you are good enough to go with me, but I haven't made a decision yet of whether or not you are good enough for me". What i think she will read is "please mam, if you could take some time out of your busy schedule for little old me, perhaps i could take you out clubbing, though i'm not confident enough to ask you straight out". This has little to do with you and more to do with the general formate of your statement and the kind of guy who traditionall says things like that.

I could be wrong, but your communication seems murky, the intent is unclear. If the first part is what you want her to think, how about combine a qualification with a your the prize phrase, such as "I need a girl with a good sense of humor. Tell me a joke, and if it's really good I'll let you take me clubbing. But remember, you only win the trip to the club, so when you demand sex later remember it will be extra"

So the formula is
1. Qualify/hoop - she must do X
2. She wins a reward (you, you are the prize)
3. Be funny about it.

It sets it up as more of a challenge/fun thing for her. If she is really hot, she will respond and be like "blah blah blah, i dont need to tell you a joke I'm hot blah blah". Thats when you neg her, when she doesn't do what you want.

Like, when you roll up on a 3 set and the target is a 10, if the second you walk up and ask her if spells work she is conversational and engaging, you don't need to neg her. I guess this is probably what you mean when you say "neg till IOI". I guess my point is, on myspace, replying to your message is an IOI. Because you know if she is responding she has checked your profile and you are at least in the yellow category (3 categories, red- no way, yellow- maybe/if he's nice (sexually receptive), green- he's hot, lets bang (sexually aggressive)).

DHV- i was kind of kidding about that, I realize thats not your DHV, I was probably a dick there. What i meant was, avoid DLV pits at all costs. Try this
"I just relaxed all day since I'm going to a club tonight"

Basically says the same thing (did nothing) but sounds like it was YOUR choice (boredom is a state no one wants, so if someone finds themselves in a bored place, it seems like they cant put anything else together). Also, i dont know how much of NLP [censored] you follow, but oftentimes describing a state like boredom causes people to actually feel that emotion and associate it with you/your email.

Here is how I would change this email

"Sorry for confusing you... Just seeing if you reply to your messages, since your mailbox must be full."

lose sorry and full mailbox, try " Yea, inside", cut thread, move on.



So anyways, how was your day? doing anything cool this weekend?

-lose "so anyways", no transition no transition no transition
-2 kinda weak questions in a row, replace with statements about your day

I had a crazy day, the cable guy came to fix something and saw my Xbox. He challegend me to a game of madden and told me if I won he would give me free cable. I am still paying for cable.

Now thats not your day obviously, but any stupid event like cable guy can be turned into an interesting 2-3 sentence story. Then if you must, include a question. But instead of "did you have a cool day" try something more suggestive like, "what kind of trouble did you get into today?"

"Today was boring for me, but i will probably go clubbin tonight so its cool."

Elinate things like probably. "Today was relaxed, but tonight we are gonna party like it was 19 hundred and ninety nine"

"I see you like DDO, thats cool! I beta tested it, but i didnt have enough time to get into it. I used to love MMORPG's i played World Of Warcraft and Everquest. But they take up too much of my time, so i choose not to play those games."

This actually isn't bad. YOu 2 have a nerd connection. But you are telling the story like a man "who what where, when why how". Instead relate your feelings about what happend.

"I was actually the first wizard to defeat gelgamon in XXX. I talked my way into beta testing the game, I can be quite charming when magic is on the line"

That wasn't great but i gotta roll. Good luck
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:23 PM
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DHV (demonstration of higher value, DLV is lower value)is basically impress her without looking like you are trying ti impress her

Inside is as short opener you can send to a million people quickly and it is slightly sexually suggestive. Just to get them to check your profile and if they respond theoretically they are interested
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:27 PM
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Modeling huh? Like a hand model?

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that is some tired "negging" there dude [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] you sound like a fast seduction robot.

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While I definitely haven't read this *whole* thread I've followed bits and pieces and it's clear to me no one understands fundamental "seduction" concepts to begin with...so he's better off using field tested material anyway.

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Old 09-08-2006, 11:26 PM
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Reading a little bit of this thread has inspired me. I'm gonna jump on the bandwaggon, although maybe a little late in the game.

Firstly, I have never really met people online before, so I'm not sure what kind of stuff I need on my profile in order to maximize my chances of getting a response.

Can somebody tell me if there is anything I should change from my current profile?
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Old 09-09-2006, 01:38 AM
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A successful push, then a curveball:


From: XXX
Date: Sep 9, 2006 1:17 AM

well i would but i am still getting over my last relationship. it ended on saturday so i am kinda upset still.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Antony
Date: Sep 8, 2006 10:06 PM


I dunno. you seem dead set on not telling me anything about yourself

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: XXX
Date: Sep 9, 2006 12:09 AM


like talk to u later or bye forever.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Antony
Date: Sep 8, 2006 9:07 PM


oh. ok bye then



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: XXX
Date: Sep 8, 2006 11:46 PM

oh. well i dont no what to say really.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Antony
Date: Sep 8, 2006 8:06 PM


trying to see if you are indeed the "AWSOMENESS ONE"

that is to say, sharing my interests of not being [censored] lame and liking to make out



----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: XXX
Date: Sep 7, 2006 2:45 PM

and my i ask. what was the message for exactly?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: XXX
Date: Sep 6, 2006 8:17 PM


mmm what do you want to know? I'm 19, I like having fun. blah blah blah boring, I dont think I translate into text too interestingly

rest assured I'm pretty amazing.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: XXX
Date: Sep 6, 2006 3:29 PM


look i dont no u. so tell me about u first.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Antony
Date: Sep 5, 2006 11:46 PM


Hi XXX. I'm Antony. I'm not [censored] lame, I like to make out, and I'm not emo at all.

Describe yourself in two words. Extra points for usage of "batshit loco"
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Old 09-09-2006, 01:54 AM
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Don't keep talking about the same thing you used in your opener?

Like tell a story or challenge her. At least try to be interesting or funny!

First, don't let her talk about negative stuff and don't tell her that she doesn't want to talk to you....then she won't!

Tell her about how you went mountain biking last weekend and the girl you were with fell off her bike. Or about how you spent all day yesterday walking around with a paper burger king crown on and you and your friends ended up in VIP at club XXXX. I dunno, just talk about something!!!

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Old 09-09-2006, 02:06 AM
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The recent posters need to go back to page one and start from the beginning. You are not doing this right. I am confident you can learn though.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:08 AM
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I promised myself I'd start something here if I ever finished with my ex, so it's time to make good on that. Completely retarded beginner question (not myspace, but another online site with girls): After a couple random emails each, she sends me one with a fun story and her number at the end unprompted. She's also got a busy work and school schedule as far as I can tell, but I don't know any specifics.

Should I call her tomorrow or Sunday and schedule a date or email her back with response plus my number and suggest she call when she's free?

Dumb question, I know. I also probably can't screw it up either way, but it'd be good to know if it comes up with someone else later. I have literally zero experience with this, my last girl lasted from the last year of highschool until Monday so I've never gotten a chance to do it. I'll definitely do a trip report if I get help and vagina. Also, a second girl sent me boobies and a nude full body shot, but has yet to respond since. I'll have another trip report ready for that one if it every happens (she just wants penis).
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:21 AM
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I promised myself I'd start something here if I ever finished with my ex, so it's time to make good on that. Completely retarded beginner question (not myspace, but another online site with girls): After a couple random emails each, she sends me one with a fun story and her number at the end unprompted. She's also got a busy work and school schedule as far as I can tell, but I don't know any specifics.

Should I call her tomorrow or Sunday and schedule a date or email her back with response plus my number and suggest she call when she's free?

Dumb question, I know. I also probably can't screw it up either way, but it'd be good to know if it comes up with someone else later. I have literally zero experience with this, my last girl lasted from the last year of highschool until Monday so I've never gotten a chance to do it. I'll definitely do a trip report if I get help and vagina. Also, a second girl sent me boobies and a nude full body shot, but has yet to respond since. I'll have another trip report ready for that one if it every happens (she just wants penis).

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As for the girl's number, I would wait around 3 days after receiving it, and then call her around 8pm. If you get a voicemail, do not leave a message. Instead send her an email saying "hey, I tried to call you tonight, but no answer."

That girl who sent boobs and full nude makes little sense. I'd say that's either a hooker or a dude goofin on you. But I've never done the online dating scene so maybe I'm way off.
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