AK unimproved, whats your play?

[phosix]

i dont know what these factors are i am determined not to use p tracker. i find that i dont need it. and i do think the stats it produces are correct but in some hands you have to play for circumstance not what a stat has been sayin.
not to mention when i move to vegas ill probably never play online again. im too good at reading faces and betting patterns of a flesh and blood.
to answer what my aggresion factor is- it is whatever the cards and my opponents call for. i can be known as a lag tag lap fish. i do whatever it is my opponents dont like and i win.

[shark6]

I don't see how you can continue past the turn with only A high against a passive player who c/r'd the flop against a PFR and proceeded to lead the turn. Just fold it an move on.

[LimpyMcGee]

This is probably the correct play. I don't know how this hand has generated so much debate. His aggression factor means a lot in this situation. He might make this play with an overpair to the board, but I think calling the turn and river are both mistakes.

[phosix]

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This is probably the correct play. I don't know how this hand has generated so much debate. His aggression factor means a lot in this situation. He might make this play with an overpair to the board, but I think calling the turn and river are both mistakes.

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first of all he could be trying to buy outs. or buy the ace high position. secondly you cant count on that stupid track unless you watch someone play for hours.
i know ive had and hour or two here or there where i did not get many hands and all of them were drawing omg now you got a read on me as a passive LOL.

"some plays have less of a - expectation than others"

[bernie]

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i know ive had and hour or two here or there where i did not get many hands and all of them were drawing omg now you got a read on me as a passive LOL.


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If you watch a table for an hour or 2, you can tell pretty well who is passive and who is aggressive. Depending on how you played those draws situationally, they may have been right.

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[HoneyBadger]

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i know ive had and hour or two here or there where i did not get many hands and all of them were drawing omg now you got a read on me as a passive LOL.

"some plays have less of a - expectation than others"

[/ QUOTE ]This is so true. The other day, over 500 hands I had an aggression factor (postflop) of 15.5!! And I was wondering why they played in such an odd manner against me. They actually pulled isolation 3 bets on me preflop... well, sorry guys, I have AA again...

[phosix]

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i know ive had and hour or two here or there where i did not get many hands and all of them were drawing omg now you got a read on me as a passive LOL.


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If you watch a table for an hour or 2, you can tell pretty well who is passive and who is aggressive. Depending on how you played those draws situationally, they may have been right.

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once again there are no certaintys since poker is a game of life and not a game of and hour or two. id focus more on watching how people play certain kinds of
hands. if they pay attention to the other players. if they like to play drawing hands in ep and do they limp or raise with them. if they get confused do they go into call down mode or raise mode. alot of stuff like that is more helpful than saying "hey he has a i suck balls factor of 3.4"

[Lunar Tweak]

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If you think it's a move, like a slingshot bet(old thread), 3 bet the flop if you're going to call it down. However, with his AF, I don't see this as a move.

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agreed. next time you feel it's a move against you, 3 bet the flop and go from there (i prefer to continue betting the turn, checking river UI). of course any further agression by villan is an easy fold. gets you to showdown cheaper. but i think you see 77-TT here a lot.

[goofball]

If we think it's a move what does 3betting the flop accomplish (othen then sometiems getting villian to fold a six out hand)?

[phosix]

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If we think it's a move what does 3betting the flop accomplish (othen then sometiems getting villian to fold a six out hand)?

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true that.