WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread

[entertainme]

I need some help regarding Dustin Holmes.

We've all been under the impression that he has a 2+2 ID, Imthedirt. But, a search of the last four years shows no posts with this ID.

In this post rageatm says:

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fyi if u know rageaddict or imthedirt.... from online he is at 28500 at the dinner break

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A few minutes later he posts::

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player update rageatm or imthedirt online is at 28500 at the dinner break

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There's also this from rageatm about Event 2:

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anyone recognize im the dirt, dirtyslick, or rageaddict

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And this one makes me think that rageatm is not Dustin Holmes because he dosn't look old enough to have a son playing the WSOP:

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Have son playing this event. Whats the alternate deal?

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Later threads have this from weevil::

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Dustin Holmes (2p2er imthedirt) has 1.176m in 16th place. Good luck.

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And this from RockMySocks:

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Holmes had about 550k.

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and he's a 2+2'er (imthedirt)...

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Can anyone clear this up? Do we have a 2+2 ID for Dustin Holmes?

Edit: If it's any help, he seems to have qualified through UB.

[Davey]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpr...ge=1&topic=

You just had to add the underscores. im_the_dirt

[entertainme]

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpr...ge=1&topic=

You just had to add the underscores. im_the_dirt

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Thank you!

[deankeaton7]

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also, don't forget that hachem won with Q7 against 99, won another coinflip and had AQ hold over K9.

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everyone forgets this.

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black, meanwhile, lost a coinflip and lost with 9T to A6 on a 965 flop.

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there's still lots of time for gold to stop winning all the chips.

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and this.

Gold is apparently a good enough player to amass a chip lead (good or lucky?), but the field has caught up considerably. He only has like 15% of the chips in play, this is not an insurmountable lead by any means.

[arbitrary]

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not like he really played all that well, he made some terrible bluffs and could've got snapped off if players gave him a little less respect


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Not to single this post out, but this line of reasoning drives me nuts. Yes, luck is very important in getting to the final table of a major event. However, to finish top ten in an event with >5000 entries requires that overall you play extremely well. Black played a few thousand hands in the ME last year, and we know the details of perhaps 1-2% of them. Not only that, but we are shown only the spectacular ones - the nutty bluffs, the big hand v. big hand and the eliminations. I'd doubt if one looked through a HH of his complete tournament, one would actually be very impressed.

This leads me to the following conclusions:

1) Black is probably an excellent player, even if he isn't exactly Doyle Brunson

2) Excellent play is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for making the final table at a big event.

{I propose that point 2 be named "The Fundamental Theorem of Big Tournament Poker" and that it be referred to when people complain that only luckboxes can win the ME.}

(Yes, I realize how odd this line of reasoning seems in light of my screen name.)

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[trying2learn]

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Here's the seating chart for today:


Richard Lee $3,275,000 1 1
Allen Cunningham $2,630,000 1 2
Kevin Aaronson $3,670,000 1 3
Kevin O'Donnell $2,130,000 1 4
Erik Friberg $7,735,000 1 5
Eric Lynch $1,785,000 1 6
John Magill $3,275,000 1 7
William Thorson $3,765,000 1 8
Michael Binger $5,725,000 1 9

Rob Roseman $1,685,000 2 1
Luke Chung $1,100,000 2 2
David Einhorn $6,905,000 2 3
Dan Nassif $5,430,000 2 4
Leif Force $2,265,000 2 5
Dustin Holmes $1,210,000 2 6
Sirous Jamshidi $1,190,000 2 7
Jeffrey Lisandro $3,715,000 2 8
Mark Garner $635,000 2 9

Jamie Gold $13,000,000 3 1
Douglas Kim $3,595,000 3 2
Lee Kort $1,700,000 3 3
Rhett Butler $6,400,000 3 4
Prahlad Friedman $1,850,000 3 5
Fred Goldberg $1,611,000 3 6
Siddharth Jain $675,000 3 7
Paul Wasicka $700,000 3 8
Richard Wyrick $570,000 3 9

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if you take all those chip counts and add them up, you get 88,226,000 chips. if 8,773 players started, then we should have 87,730,000 in play. how did we get an extra 496,000 chips in play?!

racing off chips really add that much? that's some serious chip dumping from other tournaments, no?!

[Supwithbates]

i heard that some people that blinded out day 1a were allowed to play 1d, which could account for the discrepancy

[burningyen]

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2) Excellent play is a necessary, but not sufficient, condition for making the final table at a big event.

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I submit that it's neither necessary nor sufficient.

[trying2learn]

maybe...but it would have to be 50 players to make up for it...I suppose that's possible...

[MrBrightside]

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if you take all those chip counts and add them up, you get 88,226,000 chips. if 8,773 players started, then we should have 87,730,000 in play. how did we get an extra 496,000 chips in play?!

racing off chips really add that much? that's some serious chip dumping from other tournaments, no?!

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All the chips going all in so much produces tremendous heat from all the friction bewtween them and the felt (on the order of 2.5 donks^chips/erg). Energy = heat and, as evident from relativity, mass and energy are one and this energy is converted to mass and then converted to chips.

Its the fundamental law of thermodonkanamics.