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Old 08-03-2006, 09:46 PM
stokken stokken is offline
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Default Comments on turn and river please

This is a hand that is along the line of Nath`s JJ post only a little deeper and at earlier stage.

I call for value,
1 no read but think the miniraise is fishy, but not convinced
2 I have a lovetobluffsqueezer yet to act, whoom Id call in an instant unless I change my mind on oop if he`s in to.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP3 (t39534)
CO (t45177)
Button (t25219)
SB (t46732)
BB (t51555)
UTG (t30341)
UTG+1 (t29346)
MP1 (t21347)
Hero (t27552)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9, 9.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t2400, 1 fold, Hero calls t2400, 4 folds[/i]</font>, BB calls t1200.

Flop: (t6600) 3, 3, 8 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets t2400,Hero raises to t6000, BB folds, UTG+1 calls t3600.

Turn: (t18600) 7 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t6000, UTG+1 calls t6000.

River: (t30600) 3 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero ?
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:06 PM
jason75 jason75 is offline
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Default Re: Comments on turn and river please

PF, I like the call in position getting great implied odds.

Raise more on the flop, you've giving him like 5:1 to call.

After he calls the raise on the flop and the only draw possible shows up, I think I check the turn behind.

On the river, I'm not sure. Boy has villian slowed way down here. If we bet, will villian fold 77/88/TT+? No way he folds the bigger FH's, maybe folds TT, but that's about it.

Will villian call a bet with a worse hand? You could probably get a bet in if he has the nut flush. Maybe if he had A8/A7 and thinks you're trying to push him off.

If you check and you're beat, you've still got 12K in chips, which is 10bb. Not horrific. If you bet and lose, you're out. If you check down and win, you've got T42K. If you bet and get called, you've got T54K. The difference between winning another bet and winning the pot is a 25% difference. The difference between losing the bet and losing the pot checking it down is everything.

All in all, I'm leaning towards checking the river behind. But I really want to bet against what could be the made flush.

Tough call, but I likely puss out and check.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:29 PM
vypremik vypremik is offline
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Default Re: Comments on turn and river please

My guess is that he is playing Ax with one diamond and x is T,J,Q, or K. It could be KQ or KJ, but that is less likely.

His bet on the flop means very little, but his call seems just a bit liberal for his hand. But with 2 overcards and a diamond, it is not an unusual on-line play.

Your bet on the turn gave him the right odds to draw to a flush, although he may have already made it.

On the river, dont worry about the overpair or four of a kind, that is really unlikely. Bet for value and get some more money out of him!
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Old 08-04-2006, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: Comments on turn and river please

I dont think he folds 77 or 88 as that makes an overfull. I also can't see him checking that river with a good overpair as he can't think he is beat often.
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