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#101
07-21-2006, 04:17 PM
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I also don't see the why the Cubs shouldn't keep Walker. He puts up a .350 OBP every year, which is the Cubs main problem and he's pretty cheap. [/ QUOTE ] He's 33. He's not the biggest hole in the lineup, but I'd be leary of signing him to anything but a 1 year deal. Might as well cut bait and get a prospect for him. Murton and Cedeno are 24 and 23 respectively. Anyone who thinks the Cubs should "get rid" of either of them lacks a fundamental understanding of player progression. Obviously Murton's lack of power and Cedeno's lack of plate discipline is a concern, but these guys have at least another 3-4 years of improvement in front of them. That doesn't mean you slot them in as your starters for the next few years, but you certainly hold on to them. Ramirez, as someone pointed out, had two straight years of plus .900 OPS and he's 28. I'll keep him, thanks. I hated the Jacque Jones signing then, and I think he should be traded now while his value is higher. His bat will do nothing but slow. Dusty's "everyman" is batting .258/.272/.365. There are literally dozens of minor leaguers who would be better than Nay-fee. The Cubs are literally (1) the only team in the majors who would even sign Perez but also (2) the only team with a manager who would trot him out there IN THE TWO SPOT on an almost daily basis. The bottom line is the offense is deeply flawed in terms of OBP and Slugging, and you'll have to blow much of it up (players, manager, GM) to fix the problem. 
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#102
07-22-2006, 03:45 AM
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on some level, cubs fans have to be glad ramirez isn't tearing the cover off the ball this year, as the cubs' season is the type that would cause him to decline his player option and hit the market if he could make significantly more elsewhere.
he could probably still get better than 3 years/33 somewhere, but it's a lot less likely now.
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#105
10-19-2006, 01:07 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd take ARam over Atkins and Zimmerman [/ QUOTE ] hahahahhhahahahaha and that's why you're a Cubs fan [/ QUOTE ] O RLY? [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that you're still wrong here, yes?
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#106
10-19-2006, 09:26 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'd take ARam over Atkins and Zimmerman [/ QUOTE ] hahahahhhahahahaha and that's why you're a Cubs fan [/ QUOTE ] O RLY? [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that you're still wrong here, yes? [/ QUOTE ] Zimmerman is better than Ramirez? Please.
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#107
10-19-2006, 11:00 PM
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Zimmerman is better than Ramirez? Please. [/ QUOTE ] for the next __ years (insert any number 3 or higher), give me zimmerman any day of the week. this is coming from a cubs fan who like ramirez.
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#108
10-20-2006, 12:00 AM
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[ QUOTE ] Zimmerman is better than Ramirez? Please. [/ QUOTE ] for the next __ years (insert any number 3 or higher), give me zimmerman any day of the week. this is coming from a cubs fan who like ramirez. [/ QUOTE ] The initial conversation was about this year.
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#109
10-20-2006, 02:10 AM
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[ QUOTE ] Zimmerman is better than Ramirez? Please. [/ QUOTE ] for the next __ years (insert any number 3 or higher), give me zimmerman any day of the week. this is coming from a cubs fan who like ramirez. [/ QUOTE ] Ramirez will probably outslug Zimmerman over the next few years, and their ability to get on base will likely be similar. Being just 22 is a big advantage if you're talking about the next 10 seasons. I think Aramis will be the better hitter for a few years, though. He did put up an OPS over .900 after a DISMAL first two months, with no protection in the lineup.
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#110
10-20-2006, 09:08 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] but there aren't 5 3B better than him [/ QUOTE ] There are 5 3B better than him in the National League alone. [/ QUOTE ] uhhhh, no. [/ QUOTE ] This is what you responded to. Nowhere did you mention that it was for that year alone. Therefore, Zimmerman is a better third baseman.
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