AQ on the button against a limp/caller. Curious turn.

FeltBelt · #1 07-18-2006, 08:21 PM

UTG is 45/12/2.2. He's thinking and tricky, and my initial notes on him said he was a maniac. He's settled down since though. My image is a little laggy, as I've been very active in LP and made a tough call two paired board (with the underfull) that was successful against a TAG.

What does he have? Do I find a turn fold?

(And yes I know I should have reraised the short stack PF)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($28.73)
BB ($193)
UTG ($465.17)
MP ($21.90)
CO ($78.10)
Hero ($219.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, MP raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero calls $7, SB (poster) calls $6, 1 fold, UTG calls $5.

Flop: ($30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $22, SB folds, UTG calls $22, MP calls $14.90 (All-In).

Turn: ($88.90) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG checks, Hero bets $100, UTG raises to $200, Hero calls $90.20 (All-In).

River: ($479.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $479.10

RiverFenix · #2 07-18-2006, 08:29 PM

Your overbet on the turn is poor as you are WA/WB. I understand protecting against a flush or straight draw, but you dont need to bet so much. Easy call of the c/r.

zeero3 · #3 07-18-2006, 08:32 PM

UTG is very loose; however he DID checkraise. That and the fact that the hand will be shown down either way conveys strength. I don't see Q8 or Q6 being played here. I do see KQ, QJ, QT being played here. Those three hands vs 88 or 66 is the only range that would conceivably get it up to $200 on the turn. If he's REALLY thinking, it's a fold. But this has to be read dependent. Goodluck...

ArturiusX · #4 07-18-2006, 08:38 PM

I usually make it a 3bet vs guys like this. Bet a little less on the turn, like 80.

FeltBelt · #5 07-19-2006, 03:13 AM

Results in white:

 He had 66.

CopTHIS · #6 07-19-2006, 07:22 AM

There is a good chance you are against a set but there is no way on this earth you can fold for the extra $90.2.

OK, he had 66 - but that gave you outs of an 8, Q or A for 6 outs as it was. You don't have to be ahead that often for this to be a call. It would be a terrible fold.

It would be more intesting if you bet $50 odd and saw the push. Even then it's probably a call.

Kilillan · #7 07-19-2006, 08:02 AM

3-betting this preflop should be standard for you, unless MP is very tight.