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Old 07-18-2006, 07:01 PM
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Okay, I'm gonna illustrate it for you. You go ahead and find new tables and players everyday and you will not EVER have to, for example c/r or lead w /a draw/bluff and still get paid off w/ a set every single time they have a pair, following your logic. If YOU like betting 150 w/ AA/KK here, then by all means bluff like that as well. I do not, thus I would also bluff allin obviously. You seem to not really grasp how there isn't a "perfect play right now, in this spot" regardless of all others.

Betting 150 here isn't perfect in anyway, and you are mistaken that people not even realizing stuff like the things I said will NOT call an allin as often as 150, simply because the way they see it it's just CHEAPER to call the first bet, and doesn't care about anything else.

You can oversimplify every situation in poker like you did, and you'll soon find out it just doesn't work that way.

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I think you have forgotten who the villian is in this hand. He is tight-passive. He;s not an idiot caller who only thinks about how much he has to call when deciding whether he is going to put his money in. You greatly oversimplify matters yourself with the base assertion that that villians will call $150 more often than $300 simply because it's cheaper. While that may be true in some sense, it's a distinction that makes little difference in this hand, against this player. His folding range is very likely the same for ~$150 as it is for a push.

I do appreciate the condescending post though. It reminds me why I like busting people who bluff $300 on the river in this spot when $150 would have gotten a fold from me if I was going to fold.
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:13 PM
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Okay, that means you are NEVER calling river for 150 with anything that doesn't beat aces. Good to know!
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:15 PM
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Okay, that means you are NEVER calling river for 150 with anything that doesn't beat aces. Good to know!

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Um, ok.
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:17 PM
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If he calls this its because he thinks his hand can beat an overpair. you have done a good job of repping QQ here or JJ. You havent done a good job of repping a straight so two pair and a set are still calling.
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:17 PM
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You do realize why I said that, yes?
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:19 PM
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Fgators: To whom are you responding, and to what?
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:35 PM
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If he calls this its because he thinks his hand can beat an overpair. you have done a good job of repping QQ here or JJ. You havent done a good job of repping a straight so two pair and a set are still calling.

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Yes, so if he's decided he can beat the repped overpair, he's very likely calling $150 or a push. The difference is, when you're wrong with $150, it saves you the rest of your stack.
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Old 07-18-2006, 07:46 PM
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Jesus, you guys are out of line. You think he's calling because he BEATS AA now? LOL.
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:08 PM
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Jesus, you guys are out of line. You think he's calling because he BEATS AA now? LOL.

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You make very little sense and add nothing to the thread with comments like this. Your posts have been confusing, backed up with little or no reasoning, full of broad and simplistic generalizations, and totally unhelpful. If you're going to take the time to reply, try to post something worthwhile.
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:29 PM
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Yup, thats me. I just found it rather funny reading this:

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Yes, so if he's decided he can beat the repped overpair, he's very likely calling $150 or a push

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That really makes me laugh.
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