Why Muslim Fascism must lose.

[BillUCF]

Muslim fascist countries will never have the military technology or enough military personel to take down the U.S. or Israel. This is a fact. By design religous run countries don't let their citizens have enough freedom to persue advanced technology like western democracies do. Eventually Iran or a terrorist will get themselves a nuke and use it. Ok, fine they blow up Washington D.C., NYC, or London with a nuke. It will be the last act they ever accomplish as we WILL turn their countries into glass. This is probably the eventual future and end of Muslim fascism.

[The once and future king]

You sure do have a hard on for the bomb.

[kickabuck]

I'd love to break out the pompoms Bill, but it won't be that simple. May be difficult to determine where the nuke originated as there are an ever increasing number of possibilities. Secondly, depending on circumstances, there may very well not be consensus as to the morality of vaporizing the responsible country.

[hmkpoker]

*bong hit*

Oh man

dude, seriously, peace man

I love government handouts



ooh colors

[steve9789]

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I'd love to break out the pompoms Bill, but it won't be that simple. May be difficult to determine where the nuke originated as there are an ever increasing number of possibilities. Secondly, depending on circumstances, there may very well not be consensus as to the morality of vaporizing the responsible country.

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I cannot imagine that any country in the free world having a hard time retaliating in like fashion against a nuclear weapon. If they did it would be damned disgusting.

[tomdemaine]

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*bong hit*

Oh man

dude, seriously, peace man

I love government handouts



ooh colors

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Glad to see you've come around to the logical argument.

[nicky g]

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You sure do have a hard on for the bomb.

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Watch out, it's only a matter of time before he edits this post into a song against war and claims you imagined the whole thing.

[adios]

I noticed that several in this thread are mocking your point of view. But really how far fetched is it to believe that a nuclear bomb won't end up in the hands of some terrorist group eventually that hates the western world? What actually would deter such a group from using it? I don't see much. Really when Iran develops a nuke it would be zero detterence to an offensive strike by a nuclear power such as the United States. So why develop such a weapon? I think the Iranians have already addressed this with their vows to wipe Israel off the face of the planet. When one looks it at it from that perspective i.e. that Iran is developing a nuke to obliterate Israel is it any wonder that Israel feels compelled to do what it is doing now? I find it interesting that those opposed to Israel basically never acknowledge such rhetoric from Iran as having contributed to this situation.

[nicky g]

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I noticed that several in this thread are mocking your point of view. But really how far fetched is it to believe that a nuclear bomb won't end up in the hands of some terrorist group eventually that hates the western world? What actually would deter such a group from using it? I don't see much. Really when Iran develops a nuke it would be zero detterence to an offensive strike by a nuclear power such as the United States. So why develop such a weapon? I think the Iranians have already addressed this with their vows to wipe Israel off the face of the planet. When one looks it at it from that perspective i.e. that Iran is developing a nuke to obliterate Israel is it any wonder that Israel feels compelled to do what it is doing now? I find it interesting that those opposed to Israel basically never acknowledge such rhetoric from Iran as having contributed to this situation.

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What Ahmedinejad said referred to something like "wiping the Israeli regime from the pages of history." It referred specifically to the regime, not the country or people, and according to a scholar of Iran deliberately echoed the term used by Khomeine when talking about putting an end to Saddam's regime during the Iran-Iraq war. That is not a threat for nuclear annihilation. The people who claim Islamist or Pro-Palestinian regimes are planning to nuke Israel ignore the obvious point that if they ever did so, they would kill hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, destroy many of their own most sacred monuments and irradiate forever the land they refer to the Holy Land.

It is interesting that these same people often are the ones (not including you) calling for a threat to nuke Mecca or Medina to stop Iran and the like; nuking the top two holiest sites is supposed to be a deterrent to people who are simultaneously alleged to be planning to nuke their third most holy territory that they apparently also desperately want back.

I think people are mocking Bill because he's repeatedly shown that he's not a serious poster and because he is utterly obsessed with nuking Muslim countries.

[DVaut1]

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I noticed that several in this thread are mocking your point of view. But really how far fetched is it to believe that a nuclear bomb won't end up in the hands of some terrorist group eventually that hates the western world?

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I don't think anyone is mocking the notion that a terrorist group might end up with a nuclear device; what seems to be mocked here (and in the other thread BillUCF started) is the apparent excitement BillUCF has in envisioning apocalyptic scenarios for the world's Muslim populations; as in, “oh well, NYC might be destroyed, but then we WILL FINALLY have justification for incinerating Muslims en masse” – I don’t know, call me old fashioned, but it seems an awfully strange thing to be fixated on, no?

That some seem to never tire fantasizing about nuclear genocide is a tad disconcerting. As I said, perhaps I'm old fashioned -- time spent on this forum has made me wonder if perhaps I'm the outlier, as I am completely unable to become aroused at the thought of nuclear warfare and the obliteration of entire regions and their resident peoples.