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Old 07-11-2006, 11:59 AM
EPIC EPIC is offline
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Mike McD getting $10K from the check cashing place.



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This was explained in a Bill Simmons article where he speaks with those who made rounders.

They cut out a scene where the Judge knows the owner of the check cashing place and calls in the favor to get the check cashed and also to waive any fees so he would be charged the usuals % in this type of instance. It was cut because it was deemed to be unnecessary but obviously it may have been as many people mention/discuss it.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:00 PM
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Mike McD getting $10K from the check cashing place.



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This was explained in a Bill Simmons article where he speaks with those who made rounders.

They cut out a scene where the Judge knows the owner of the check cashing place and calls in the favor to get the check cashed and also to waive any fees so he would be charged the usuals % in this type of instance. It was cut because it was deemed to be unnecessary but obviously it may have been as many people mention/discuss it.

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I don't see why it's such a big deal. If the standard charge is 1%, then Mike got back $9,900 from the check cashing place. If he had $100 in his pocket, then he's got $10K.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:09 PM
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This may not be what you're looking for, but a few that have always bothered me.

Reservoir Dogs - In theory, none of the movie should have taken place, as I believe the undercover cop wouldn't be allowed to let Mr Blonde shoot up the place. He would have had to blow cover at that point and try and save people.

From Dusk Til Dawn - I know you have to suspend disbelief when watching horror movies, but one scene really bother's me. When Harvey Keitel says, "Alright, now what do we know about vampires?" He asks as if there's an actual answer. Nothing, is the answer. Until then, you thought vampires didn't exist, you don't know a thing about them.

Ocean's 11 - What's the point of George Clooney prentending to be "out," and then being in the elevator shaft? What was the plan prior to that? Why try and mess with the guy helping you rob a casino?

That's all I can think of for now.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:21 PM
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Mike McD getting $10K from the check cashing place.



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This was explained in a Bill Simmons article where he speaks with those who made rounders.

They cut out a scene where the Judge knows the owner of the check cashing place and calls in the favor to get the check cashed and also to waive any fees so he would be charged the usuals % in this type of instance. It was cut because it was deemed to be unnecessary but obviously it may have been as many people mention/discuss it.

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I don't see why it's such a big deal. If the standard charge is 1%, then Mike got back $9,900 from the check cashing place. If he had $100 in his pocket, then he's got $10K.

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I think the major focus is how would someone walk into a place at night and cash a check for that amount, there not just gonna take ID and go heres 10k. Thats where the implausibility lies.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:28 PM
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Ocean's 11 - What's the point of George Clooney prentending to be "out," and then being in the elevator shaft? What was the plan prior to that? Why try and mess with the guy helping you rob a casino?

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OMG there are a ton in Oceans 11.

Another one I can think of is the fact that the two door guards NEVER once go into the room while the big tattooed guy is supposedly beating up Clooney. Clooney is meanwhile down there with Damon helping him out and that giant tattooed guy pretends to beat him up for like 30 minutes? And the 2 guys standing outside the door never happen to peek in just to check up on things? Or did they, and the big guy paid them off with the $1M he got from Clooney?
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:00 PM
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Heist

Great movie. It's got:

1. Ricky Jay

2. tons of cool cons and tricks

3. "There's nothing wrong with prayer. We knew this firefighter, this trooper, who always caried a bible next to his heart. We used to mock him, but that bible stopped a bullet." (No [censored]?) "Hand of God, that bible stopped a bullet, would of ruined that [censored]'s heart. And had he had another bible in front of his face, that man would be alive today."

But it also has at least one incongruity that bugs me: The main character was planning, from the start, on being betrayed by his wife, and that was just one more built-in double-triple-reversal double-cross that he had planned for, and not only that, which didn't bother him at all -- he actually smiles as he rolls down the road in his get-away truck with the gold, no wife, and people dead as a result of this caper.

(I left 4. off the list because not everyone will appreciate it, but let me say that I definitely count David Mammet's awkward, unrealistic dialog as a plus. How I have come to love it -- especially when he directs the picture, and I can imagine him giving direction, "No no no, too much feeling. The key to acting is enunciation! Give me cardboard, people, try again..."
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:13 PM
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Reservoir Dogs - In theory, none of the movie should have taken place, as I believe the undercover cop wouldn't be allowed to let Mr Blonde shoot up the place. He would have had to blow cover at that point and try and save people.


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If I remember right, the plan was for Mr Orange (undercover cop, Tim Roth) and Mr White (Harvey Keitel) to take the manager into the back and get the diamonds. The rest of the thieves were supposed to stay in the front and take care of the employees and customers. This could explain why Mr Orange wasn't around when Mr Blonde started shooting people.

But then again, Mr Orange would have heard the gunshots (maybe he couldn't respond in time?). And also, there's the scene where Mr White is describing to Eddie what Mr Blonde did. If Mr White say Blonde's rampage, then that means that Mr Orange probably did too, since White and Orange were supposed to be working together.

hmmmmm I dunno I always figured that Orange couldn't stop the rampage because he was in the back with White and the manager, but now that I think about it, it doesn't make sense.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:15 PM
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How the hell did the TRex get inside the Visitor's Center?
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:17 PM
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I don't think a deus ex machina has bothered me more than the one in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I spent about 8 hours of my life wondering, "How the hell are these few humans and elves gonna defeat thousands upon thousands of orcs?" The characters kept harping on it too, making sure we knew what an obstacle they were facing.

Then 3/4 of the way through the last movie Viggo Mortensen slaps his hand to his forehead and says, "Oh yeah! I almost forgot, we have a [censored] ghost army that's invincible! We'll just use them!"

I know that that's Tolkien's fault and not the fault of the filmmakers, but since I've only seen the movies I choose to blame Peter Jackson.

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Actually, that entire sequence is quite different in the book. In the book, the army of the dead actually only participates in a series of smaller battles in the south, helping to free up several armies of men who were under siege there, and defeating reinforcements of Sauron's army who were on their way to Minas Tirith. The importance of them was that by helping to defeat Sauron's forces in the south, it enabled the large armies of men to come to reinforce Minas Tirith. The army that Aragorn leads to that battle was an army of men, and it is they who are critical in turning the tide of the battle. The idea of an invincible ghost army that just arrives and instantly kills everything in sight is completely the invention of the filmmakers.

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Old 07-11-2006, 03:32 PM
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Actually, that entire sequence is quite different in the book.

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The importance of them was that by helping to defeat Sauron's forces in the south, it enabled the large armies of men to come to reinforce Minas Tirith.

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Not to mention loyalty, debt paying, suffering consequences of one's own actions, etc., are recurring themes in the novels.

And it isn't as if these ideas were cobled in so the "ghost army" angle could be pulled off later on.
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