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Old 07-10-2006, 04:11 AM
Winky McGee Winky McGee is offline
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Default 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

I am doing an experiment. I am going to 12-table until I play 1000 tournaments at every level on PartyPoker (yes I am aware that 1000 is not divisible by 12). I will do this until I show a negative ROI (or when I go broke, whatever happens first). I never tried 12-tabling until this experiment, but I find it to be a lot easier than I thought. Sometimes I think I play better in ways because I don't over-think. The only downside is when I have to go the bathroom. I normally have to miss like 4 hands. An empty gatorade bottle has solved this problem nicely (just kidding [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]).

I already played 1054 at the 10+1 level (keep in mind that my first 300 or so are from when I was a sit and go beginner and knew absolutely jack squat about poker).

Here are my stats:
10+1:
ROI: 18.41%
ROI over the last 916 (more indicative of my new non-beginner skillz that pay the billz as this is after I learned pushbot stuff etc): 23.16%

I overall expect that I should have a 23% roi or higher which means that one can make about $33 an hour playing 10+1s. But obviously a person is probably better off killing himself than being a professional 10+1 player.

I'm not going to break down into the details of my stats too much but I pretty much own the 10+1s 12 tabling I am a God among the scumbags (just kidding again!). But here is what I ask of the readers and I'm being serious now.

Assuming that I don't improve as a player for the rest of the experiment, and all you know is that I'm a 23% roi 10+1 player, what will you predict my results are 12-tabling the final buy-ins based on my ROI in the 10+1s? I will post my results as they happen.

20+2: ??
30+2: ??
50+5: ??
100+9: ??

I would appreciate any thoughtful response to this post.
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Old 07-10-2006, 04:36 AM
TravestyFund TravestyFund is offline
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

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Assuming that I don't improve as a player for the rest of the experiment, and all you know is that I'm a 23% roi 10+1 player,

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This is impossible to assume b/c the more you play the better you will get via experience.

If you are simply asking what kind of an ROI you could expect if you jumped straight to the 109s, Id say barely BE at best. Most of what you learn is through starting basic and playing with a basic kind of player. As you move up, the plyrs start to progressively turn more and more TAGish and advanced. This is when you have to develop better methods to exploit other weakness's (skill through experience). Dont get me wrong, there are still tons of fish at every level, but I think you get the point.
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Old 07-10-2006, 04:41 AM
CaucasianAsian29 CaucasianAsian29 is offline
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

GL dude!! but why do you want to do this? I don't really understand it, seems kinda silly
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Old 07-10-2006, 04:46 AM
tatemodern tatemodern is offline
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

11s - 25% ROI
20s - 20% ROI
33s - 16% ROI
55s - 13% ROI
109s - 10% ROI
215s - 7% ROI
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Old 07-10-2006, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

GL, btw, you have way too much time on yer hands.
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Old 07-10-2006, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

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11s - 25% ROI
20s - 20% ROI
33s - 16% ROI
55s - 13% ROI
109s - 10% ROI
215s - 7% ROI

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That's if you are a good player on that level, not what a good $11-player would have if he just jumped up to say $215.
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Old 07-10-2006, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

11s - 20% ROI
20s - 15% ROI
33s - 7% ROI
55s - 3% ROI
109s - -2% ROI
215s - -7% ROI
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Old 07-10-2006, 07:50 AM
aujoz aujoz is offline
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

why?
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

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11s - 20% ROI
20s - 15% ROI
33s - 7% ROI
55s - 3% ROI
109s - -2% ROI
215s - -7% ROI

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This one sounds more realistic, although negative 7 is maybe a bit harsh for the $215s.
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:45 PM
Guthrie Guthrie is offline
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Default Re: 12 Tabling Experiment: 1000 sample of each buy-in

Congratulations on doubling up every time you push.

Since that can't last forever, I predict you bust out at the 22s.
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