pair + FD oop

[Slappz]

So you know his hand range is ahead of you, you know you have little to no fold equity, yet your still pushing?

[AlwaysAir]

you're play screams exactly what you have, you're only getting called by a hand that is ahead here, and considering the reads I'd call.

[Big_Jim]

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So ... no FE

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Call.

[Mercman572]

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So you know his hand range is ahead of you, you know you have little to no fold equity, yet your still pushing?

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You don't need any fold equity for the push to be +EV. You're about 1:1 to make your hand and getting 1.125:1 pot odds if called.

[cferejohn]

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if a blank comes on turn what then?... if you check villian most certainly bets imo... then you fold?... that doesn't sound right...

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If you are going to check-call the flop, that seems like the best line though. Really it's just another argument for betting/3-betting all-in.

If he has a set, he's calling either way. He will probably (if your "rock" read is accurate) lay down an overpair to a bet/3-bet as well. He probably lays it down to the check-raise too, but this way you win a bigger pot.

If he just calls, then I'm damn certain he doesn't have a set, and again assuming the read is right, you can probably get him off the turn since they that I would define as "rocks" are *extremely* reluctant to lose their stacks with "just one pair".

Otoh, he calls, turn blanks, you bet, he pushes, you might have to lay it down (depends on the stack sizes obviously), but I'd feel pretty good about my 5 non-club outs in this case, fwiw.

[Isura]

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So you know his hand range is ahead of you, you know you have little to no fold equity, yet your still pushing?

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You don't need any fold equity for the push to be +EV. You're about 1:1 to make your hand and getting 1.125:1 pot odds if called.

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Actually we're only 47% to win against overpairs/set, so the play is slightly -EV with no FE.

[Mercman572]

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So you know his hand range is ahead of you, you know you have little to no fold equity, yet your still pushing?

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You don't need any fold equity for the push to be +EV. You're about 1:1 to make your hand and getting 1.125:1 pot odds if called.

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Actually we're only 47% to win against overpairs/set, so the play is slightly -EV with no FE.

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By 2 hundreths, NIT! 53/47= 1.128

BTW, I don't like the line you took.

[CallYNotRaise06]

i like b/3b here, or c/c flop, lead turn or possibly open push turn

[DJ Sensei]

Against a rock, c/c is fine here. And I agree that if you want to put your stack in the middle, a b3b is better.

[younghov17]

thought here

his draw is extremely obvious if any club comes is he rly going to get much more out of villian? the only card i can see him geting paid off on is if he hits 2 pair and villian doesnt have a set. does he rly have the odds to call here?