Question on a ruling in my WSOP (#8) event - Page 5

benfranklin · #41 07-05-2006, 05:28 PM

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it's easy to point a moral finger at someone at a distance, but you can't judge someone in the heat of the moment (ie a big tournament)

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Everyone is making comments based on the OP's description of what happened, and no one has doubted his facts.

You have to judge someone in the heat of a tournament, because that't when it counts. Are you saying that something is OK in the heat of a tournament and not OK in a home game or a B&M ring game? It is obvious from the OP's description that he knew what he was doing.

gusmahler · #42 07-05-2006, 07:28 PM

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all you people saying OP is scum are idiots. like the basketball analogy, it's like a player got a call in his favor and didn't say anything about it.

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Basketball is not a good analogy. Golf is a better one. In golf, you're expected to call your own fouls. I think that in poker, it's expected that you don't accept a pot that you know doesn't belong to you.

WarDekar · #43 07-05-2006, 07:29 PM

I obviously meant the backdoor nut low draw, I clearly did not think I had the low on the turn.

WarDekar · #44 07-05-2006, 07:31 PM

And I really care what you think of me.

Richard Tanner · #45 07-05-2006, 07:32 PM

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all you people saying OP is scum are idiots. like the basketball analogy, it's like a player got a call in his favor and didn't say anything about it. no one should talk about what he should've done in that situation, because you haven't been there. it's easy to point a moral finger at someone at a distance, but you can't judge someone in the heat of the moment (ie a big tournament)

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I can say with minimal doubt that people like you are what make live poker awful.
It's not at all like basketball, the rules are different. In poker all players are obligated to maintain the integrity of the game. Just because the other player (the one that didn't know his hand) is a moron, that alone isn't cause for losing.

Cody

WarDekar · #46 07-05-2006, 07:34 PM

Yeah, because I somehow stabbed this guy in the back. How can you really think it's my responsibility to call an opponents hand FOR him after he mis-calls it and the dealer says nothing? Berate the dealer, not me.

Richard Tanner · #47 07-05-2006, 07:35 PM

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all you people saying OP is scum are idiots. like the basketball analogy, it's like a player got a call in his favor and didn't say anything about it.

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Basketball is not a good analogy. Golf is a better one. In golf, you're expected to call your own fouls. I think that in poker, it's expected that you don't accept a pot that you know doesn't belong to you.

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You, sir, are my new hero

Cody

WarDekar · #48 07-05-2006, 07:38 PM

I will readily admit I knew what I was doing. I knew he had 4s full, and I take no shame in not bringing it to his immediate attention.

Upon other players mentioning it and the floor being called, however, I fully acknowledged it and recreated the pot within 10 seconds to give him his chips.

Botchman · #49 07-05-2006, 07:39 PM

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You are a cheater and an a$$. Cards speak and you saw it. You lied on purpose to win T200. Why even bother posting here, you know what kind of answers you are going to see.

Most posters here are in favor of playing by the rules to encourage a fair game. You sir clearly are not so you suck.

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You are an a$$ its not his responsibilty to speak up and say that he was beat if buddy didn't realize it it was his own fault. To say he cheated is bs.

Richard Tanner · #50 07-05-2006, 07:43 PM

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Yeah, because I somehow stabbed this guy in the back. How can you really think it's my responsibility to call an opponents hand FOR him after he mis-calls it and the dealer says nothing? Berate the dealer, not me.

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Well we, myself included, can think it's your responsibility because it is. If you'd like a real life example, I believe that Marcel Luske was seen correcting the dealer on the hand he busted out on in the 2005 WSOP. It's part of the integrity of the game and it's a rule.

Cody