Past 4 WSOP Champions- respect the most?

[dumbndumb]

Pretty well agreed upon w/ Raymer then Hachem. Then Rob, then Money.

[bb88]

And I think it needs to be noted the gap between Hachem and then Rob/Money is a lot bigger than any gap on the list.

[okterrific]

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Raymer, Hachem. Large gap. Fill in your name here. Moneymaker & Varkoyni

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[JCool]

Raymer is clearly by far and away the winner. The other three are about the same, and way far behind.

[NickMPK]

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Raymer is clearly by far and away the winner. The other three are about the same, and way far behind.

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Hachem has come damn close to winning both a WSOP Circuit ring and a WSOP bracelet in a huge Hold-em field less than a year after winning the Main Event in the largest field ever.

Moneymaker and Varkonyi both won the Main Event against much smaller fields, and have done absolutely nothing of any consequence in WSOP events before or after their one victory.

I think it's too early to make a judgment about Hachem v. Raymer. Raymer backed up his title in a big way last year, but Hachem has made a good showing in just a handful of tourneys this year.

So I think the big gap is between Raymer-Hachem and Moneymaker-Varkonyi, not between Raymer and the other three. Obviously this is all subject to change in the next few years...large field tournament results have enormous variance.

[cbloom]

I think Raymer is one of the top tourney pros, but why do any of you think Hachem is any worse? These things are very hard to judge and it seems both Raymer and Hachem have played so few big tourneys that their results are pretty variance-heavy at this point.

[DDC67]

Clearly we all see the trend in ranking the past 4 champs but lets go back to 2000 and add to the list Chris Ferguson and 2001- Carlos Mortensen. How does this change the rankings? I think Greg and Chris would be very close with Carlos, Joe, .....Chris and...............Robert rounding out my list.

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Fossilman and it's not even close [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

I can't ask you the other "standard" question because you haven't been here long enough to know why

[Easy E]

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Moneymaker and Varkonyi both won the Main Event against much smaller fields, and have done absolutely nothing of any consequence in WSOP events before or after their one victory.

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We need five years to make an accurate judgment between the two, but as a tourney player Chris has had more well-known success since the ME, mostly Poker Superstars Invitational recently. Robert had that silly frostbite title and I don't know what else.
Minor list from Hendon Mob site

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So I think the big gap is between Raymer-Hachem and Moneymaker-Varkonyi, not between Raymer and the other three. Obviously this is all subject to change in the next few years...large field tournament results have enormous variance.

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I agree that we can't downgrade Joe, as we don't know his whole history.. I would still rank Greg at the top, barring further evidence in the future. However, I wouldn't be that happy to see Joe sit down on my left, either.

Since we here have a long history with Greg, we know more about his daily records than just these listings

[JoeAbrams]

I still find it funny that Moneymaker gets 0 respect.

He has had more success than varkonyi and I think it's pretty much a toss-up between him and raymer (in terms of success since their wins)

I don't think there is a "large gap" between raymer/hachem and moneymaker as everyone here seems to believe.

Moneymaker never got any respect and I still can't see why.. he played great and had some great televised hands.

Even his 88 play was a great hand imo.