Open letter to Censored

[KaneKungFu123]

Elaine,

Just have Ed send a pm to Mason and he will tell Mat to call off Censored...




















































if you need a Man to take care of you.

[ElaineMonster]

Funny how I don't see half this thread because so many of you are now on my ignore list (if you announced that you voted for banning me in Censored's thread you are now on my ignore list).

Suggestion to those who hate me: add me to YOUR ignore list.

[PartyGirlUK]

Elaine,

serious, non judgemental question:

Why do you think you are seemingly so unpopular?

Dean

[Anacardo]

Elaine:

I have never said anything to you with better intentions than I do now.

Here's the thing. Have you noticed the bar graph that reflects the popular vote involved in [censored]'s latest "culling?" Have you seen the big, long bar? That's you. The idea for this was set forward by [censored]'s whim, but you specifically were nominated and then singled out by overwhelming popular vote. You're not very popular around here. And that is quite curious, considering that you, as the wife of one of the five-or-so most beloved people on this forum, are in a natural position to be extremely popular. Nonetheless you seem to two important failures of comprehension and judgment, that have caused you to squander your enormous natural advantage in this regard. These are:

1) Your enormously hostile attitude towards the rank-and-file 2+2er. You are very quick to start slinging insults, making very strong judgments on the character of others without much appreciable cause, and otherwise convey the attitude that you find the people you associate with here to a low, disgusting breed. This, as you might imagine, sparks a considerable amount of matching resentment.

I understand that OOT contains a lot of rather insensitive / unflattering content with respect to women. I understand that you are highly sensitive to such content. This strikes one as a ready-made recipe for discord that is perhaps unavoidable. But surely you must realize that playing the part of some high-minded, righteous crusader is going to cut very little ice here. Bluntly stated, why should anyone listen to you, particularly if your approach is going to rely on contempt and hostility from the very beginning?

2) Where we run into a real problem is when we combine the above attitude with a certain misapprehension of the facts. That is this, and it is important: You assume that being the wife of Ed Miller automatically makes you someone with credibility in the 2+2 community. This is manifestly untrue; his credibility does not extend to yours, and you must earn your own respect as a poster.

Let's say Ed was the strapping star quarterback of the Oakland Raiders, and you were his blushing bride. One unlucky autumn Sunday, Ed gets sacked about half a dozen times and generally spends most of the game with his face buried in the turf. May you then storm into the locker room and chew out Ed's offensive line? No; of course not. You would have no authority or credibility within Ed's professional life. The same is true here.

Do you even play poker? Do you know how to play poker? Not being much of a player is of course no bar to being a welcome, contributing member at 2+2. But as you make no strategy posts, and your non-strategy posts so often consist of berating the board for its Shameful Behavior and Treatment of Something or Somebody, and calling people "pussy-asses" for no apparent reason whatsoever, it would seem to me that you should be wondering not who [censored] thinks he is, but, rather, who you think you are. Why should you be welcome at this forum? Indeed, why do you associate at all with people for whom you seem to have so much contempt and anger?

I think you owe it to yourself to consider your answer to these questions carefully. How do you respond?

[evil twin]

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Why do you think you are seemingly so unpopular?

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I really don't get the hate myself, I've always liked her posts. Way better than I like mine anyway.

Then again I don't get why everyone hates Dynasty either.

[cardsharkk04]

very well thought out post Anacardo

[WillMagic]

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Elaine:

I have never said anything to you with better intentions than I do now.

Here's the thing. Have you noticed the bar graph that reflects the popular vote involved in [censored]'s latest "culling?" Have you seen the big, long bar? That's you. The idea for this was set forward by [censored]'s whim, but you specifically were nominated and then singled out by overwhelming popular vote. You're not very popular around here. And that is quite curious, considering that you, as the wife of one of the five-or-so most beloved people on this forum, are in a natural position to be extremely popular. Nonetheless you seem to two important failures of comprehension and judgment, that have caused you to squander your enormous natural advantage in this regard. These are:

1) Your enormously hostile attitude towards the rank-and-file 2+2er. You are very quick to start slinging insults, making very strong judgments on the character of others without much appreciable cause, and otherwise convey the attitude that you find the people you associate with here to a low, disgusting breed. This, as you might imagine, sparks a considerable amount of matching resentment.

I understand that OOT contains a lot of rather insensitive / unflattering content with respect to women. I understand that you are highly sensitive to such content. This strikes one as a ready-made recipe for discord that is perhaps unavoidable. But surely you must realize that playing the part of some high-minded, righteous crusader is going to cut very little ice here. Bluntly stated, why should anyone listen to you, particularly if your approach is going to rely on contempt and hostility from the very beginning?

2) Where we run into a real problem is when we combine the above attitude with a certain misapprehension of the facts. That is this, and it is important: You assume that being the wife of Ed Miller automatically makes you someone with credibility in the 2+2 community. This is manifestly untrue; his credibility does not extend to yours, and you must earn your own respect as a poster.

Let's say Ed was the strapping star quarterback of the Oakland Raiders, and you were his blushing bride. One unlucky autumn Sunday, Ed gets sacked about half a dozen times and generally spends most of the game with his face buried in the turf. May you then storm into the locker room and chew out Ed's offensive line? No; of course not. You would have no authority or credibility within Ed's professional life. The same is true here.

Do you even play poker? Do you know how to play poker? Not being much of a player is of course no bar to being a welcome, contributing member at 2+2. But as you make no strategy posts, and your non-strategy posts so often consist of berating the board for its Shameful Behavior and Treatment of Something or Somebody, and calling people "pussy-asses" for no apparent reason whatsoever, it would seem to me that you should be wondering not who [censored] thinks he is, but, rather, who you think you are. Why should you be welcome at this forum? Indeed, why do you associate at all with people for whom you seem to have so much contempt and anger?

I think you owe it to yourself to consider your answer to these questions carefully. How do you respond?

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*applause*

[tomdemaine]

Can we keep the sensible, serious, good natured, well thought out posts to a minimum please? We're trying to have a circus here. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[PartyGirlUK]

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Funny how I don't see half this thread because so many of you are now on my ignore list (if you announced that you voted for banning me in Censored's thread you are now on my ignore list).


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See, what is the point of this post? It comes across as penis waving.

[Phoenix1010]

Cardo,

I think the point is, why the hell should she care how OOT sees her? Even beyond that, man that was a bad post.

Edit for clarification: the first point is great, the second two are horrendous.