I Keep Dreaming of This WSOP Hand...

[T_Mac]

I think less interesting, if you know the villain isn't an idiot its a pretty easy fold this early.

[mlagoo]

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OK, so does this hand become more or less interesting if we replace Party-Poker-shirt-boy with:

I) Phil Ivey
II) Phil Hellmuth
III) Mike Matusow
IV) adanthar

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ivey or matusow i'd be more inclined to push the flop, hellmuth/adanthar i'd pretty much instamuck to the flop c/r.

or at least as close to instamucking as one can get with KK on an undercard flop. i'd make a pained face first or something. i might even pat the felt afterwards.

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....If I do fold, I definatley show the fold in hopes to start working a table image I use to my advantage later.

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i would never ever show this fold without wholly expecting to be raped in the tooshie for the rest of the tournament

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I agree.

[adanthar]

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So what you guys are saying is that I should call every PFR, then CR in the dark.

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Andanthar,

Playing against you UTG on the first hand of the Main Event and a random internet player is entirely different.


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Obv. I will have a Stars hat on.

[GambleGamble]

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....If I do fold, I definatley show the fold in hopes to start working a table image I use to my advantage later.

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i would never ever show this fold without wholly expecting to be raped in the tooshie for the rest of the tournament

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I agree.

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pussys

[Ansky]

Uhm this is a fold in general, but if you know your opponent is a monkey then shove. oh i just saw its first hand.

uhhhhhhh, what do randoms play like at the wsop?

[THEOSU]

ansky,

randoms are pretty awful. but randoms tend to not go broke on hand 1.

Also, won't a random be more loose/passive awful on average than making a play like this with a hand we beat?

[THEOSU]

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Also, won't a random be more loose/passive awful on average than making a play like this with a hand we beat?

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yes. particularly on hand 1.

[registrar]

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Not to steal LFT's thunder, but after he started up his "Imaginary WSOP Hand" threads, I found myself dreaming of hypothetical hands at night. There is one, in particular, that really bothers me. I think this one bothers me because I) I am not entirely comfortable playing deep-stacked, II) My biggest fear is going broke on the first hand, and III) I never know what's the best way to play against unknowns.

So, would love to hear how you guys play this hand.

First damn hand of the Main Event. You're obviously excited to be at your first WSOP. You recognize no one at your table. Villain in this hand is wearing a Party Poker tee-shirt. Blinds are 25/50.

You look down at red Kings in the CO. Folded to UTG+1 who raises to 150, UTG+2 calls, and it's folded to you. You reraise to 850. UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls. 1925 in the pot.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG+2 checks, you bet 1350. UTG+2 now raises to 4500. Besides puking, what's your move?

Note: You are not Phil Hellmuth.

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My friend has qualified through a European site and has a warm-up $1000 event and a consolation $1000 event if he gets knocked out on the first day. His expenses are paid and he gets $1000 cash if he wins nothing.

If I were in his shoes, I would push this pre-flop. I simply wouldn't want to piss about, shaking with nerves and with no reads, on the very first hand, with KK. I understand that this is hardly the greatest play in the world but I am not the greatest player. I'd be ready to play very tight until I had some reads and felt comfortable. Frankly, I'd be willing to 'waste' a big hand pre-flop rather than try and play it correctly, reraising and then getting out played on a draw-heavy or ace high flop. I would then play extremely tight for a while, and, next time, have a clearer idea of whether villain is really going to call reraises with a pair of eights.

As played, I check behind and raise or bet most turns.