The Vegetarian Torture

[Paluka]

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Everyone is a hypocrite. Its just a matter of how much hypocrisy each person is willing to accept.

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[Scary_Tiger]

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Saying that we should eat meat because of the food chain is like saying we shouldn't fly because we weren't born with wings.

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No, saying that we should eat meat because of the food chain is like saying we should fly because we have airplanes.

[El Ishmael]

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Saying that we should eat meat because of the food chain is like saying we shouldn't fly because we weren't born with wings.

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No, saying that we should eat meat because of the food chain is like saying we should fly because we have airplanes.

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WTF

[The DaveR]

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Saying that we should eat meat because of the food chain is like saying we shouldn't fly because we weren't born with wings.

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No, saying that we should eat meat because of the food chain is like saying we should fly because we have airplanes.

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Time to register a new account dooder.

[Aloysius]

I am always surprised at how many of my friends are vegetarians, or pescetarians, or whatever. I suspect the % of American vegetarians has grown quite a bit in the past decade. I also know very few vegetarians that moralize about their diet or evince a holier than thou attitude.

-Al

[Evan]

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People cannot be meat-eaters without participating in animal torture.


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Elaine, if I see a deer in the woods and shoot it in the head (i.e. it dies instantly), is that animal torture?

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Elaine, since you won't answer this question, how about another one...


Is this animal torture?

[El Diablo]

Paluka,

My point was simple. They are animals, dude. Nothing wrong with eating animals. That's what people do.

[The DaveR]

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People cannot be meat-eaters without participating in animal torture.


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Elaine, if I see a deer in the woods and shoot it in the head (i.e. it dies instantly), is that animal torture?

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Elaine, since you won't answer this question, how about another one...


Is this animal torture?


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I call cruelty toward cheese.

[SmileyEH]

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Vegetarian for environmental reasons - raising animals uses xxx resources etc., again some decent cases can be made.

Vegetarian for animal cruelty reasons - here is where it starts to get a little shaky for me. If that's the reason, then don't eat certain stuff, but to not eat all meat for this reason seems odd.

Vegetarian because killing animals is bad - this one is where I just don't get it. It's like, look, there's an animal kingdom, there's a circle of life, there's a food chain, there's evolution, etc. Animals are not people, simple as that. I think a certain contingent of vegetarians tend to forget that.

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I'm not a vegetarian, but I can recognize all those reasons as valid. I certainly don't dispute the fact that a pound of beef hurts the world more than a pound of tofu, eating eggs from chickens grown in little boxes is cruel to the chickens, and killing/harming animals when there is no *need* to (not starving alone lost in the wilderness) is at least somewhat wrong.

However, the fact is - I just don't care enough about these reasons not to enjoy the food I love. Just as almost all of us don't care enough about kids in Africa to donate 10% of our income to adopting starving children, or care enough about safety to drive exactly at the speed limit instead of 10mph over thus increasing our's and others' fatality rate by 1% or whatever. We all make choices about how we will live our lives, and how "moral" we want to be. The welfare of egg producing chickens just isn't high on my (and 99% of people's) list, and the pleasure I get from eating a steak is more than the joy of knowing I saved 1 square foot of Brazilian rainforest from destruction.

-SmileyEH

[El Diablo]

Evan,

I am just weeping for all of the animals Elaine is murdering so she can serve flesh to her captive "pet."