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#12
06-15-2006, 09:17 AM
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Re: 3/6 ATo with tough board
As others have pointed out, I think b/f the turn is the way to go. You don't want another [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] to fall on the river. The board is scary, and with a protected pot, if someone raises, you can easily fold.
As played, if you are going to call the turn, why are you check folding the river? 
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#13
06-15-2006, 09:34 AM
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Re: 3/6 ATo with tough board
Im folding this pre flop, something that has not been mentioned as of yet.
I like the flop bet. I would bet the turn to not give a club a free card, i dont want it to get checked thru, I agree w/ Buck that few turns w/ this many players is checked thru, but by betting I think I put myself in a better spot to evaluate and give myself the chance to fold to a raise. The river looks like a blank. I would check w/ the intention of calling a single bet or folding to two bets. Playing this hand in a multiway pot out of postiion is what makes for the harder postflop decisions imo.
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#14
06-15-2006, 10:19 AM
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Re: 3/6 ATo with tough board
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Im folding this pre flop, something that has not been mentioned as of yet. [/ QUOTE ] hah. 13:2 isnt good enough for ya? Add another to the bet/fold the turn group. I dont really understand Buck's c/c the turn line. This allows those with draws to possibly take free cards and those with worse aces to see a free river if they chose. If we have the best hand a bet is the only hope of protection, but if we get raised all signs point to our hand being no good at a cost of 1bb. C/c the turn and I guess c/c the river or betting a non-paint non-club is an expensive way to find out our 1 pair is no good.
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#16
06-15-2006, 10:43 AM
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Re: 3/6 ATo with tough board
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[ QUOTE ] hah. 13:2 isnt good enough for ya? [/ QUOTE ] huh? [/ QUOTE ] Preflop: Hero is SB with T, A. 2 folds, UTG+2 calls ($3), MP1 calls($3), 3 folds, Button calls($3), Hero ($1 sb) completes, BB checks ($3bb). when the action gets to you, you are getting 13:2 odds on your money, right? Sounds good for any 2 broadways to me.
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#17
06-15-2006, 10:48 AM
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Re: 3/6 ATo with tough board
No not really, its only 10$ when it gets to you and costing you 2$ more. 5:1 not knowing what the BB will do, oop in a family pot. Two unsuited broadways does not look very good to me, maybe its just me though, nobody else mentioned it.
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#18
06-15-2006, 10:59 AM
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Re: 3/6 ATo with tough board
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No not really, its only 10$ when it gets to you and costing you 2$ more. [/ QUOTE ] T/F BB put his money in before the hand was dealt
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#19
06-15-2006, 11:23 AM
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Re: 3/6 ATo with tough board
lol, im going to quit posting before my coffee and while im trying to dodge bosses at work. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Now that I have had my coffee and the bosses have gone to there offices 13:2 looks fine to me. However, I would still be mucking in this spot, so I guess to answer your original question, no 6.5:1 is not enough for me here.
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#20
06-15-2006, 04:24 PM
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Re: 3/6 ATo with tough board
Easy call preflop, bet/fold the turn.
You checked into 3 other opponents who will likely bet a ton of different hands/draws (especially since you showed weakness) and then you assume you are behind when it is bet. This is pretty bad. Also, you don't have a club in your hand which makes the turn even more of a bet. You basically gave up the pot after your flop bet was called. Haupt_234
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