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Old 06-08-2006, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

I don't think there is anything wrong will calling there and making a judgement on the turn. Often the shorter stacks make tiny donk bets from there.
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:15 AM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

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I'm weird, but I check this flop a lot.

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Checking this flop is not weird at all. Probably actually standard.

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Doubt checking is standard.

I usually call these or push
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:03 PM
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Calling is the worst play as I see it. Does another bet by him on the turn mean he's firing the 2nd barrel of a bluff, or that you're definately beaten?

Raise or fold. If he calls the raise it's check/fold mode.

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I disagree totally against unknowns with that size of stack. So many of those that make minimum c/r bets like this then shut up or make small bets from then on, otherwise massively overbet.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

In this case you need to find out where you are sooner than later.

But first, you hit your flop and made a large bet. Did you want to tell him "i have a weak hand so I am trying to push you off of your hand?" If you thought you were good on the flop you would bet less.

I don't mind the min raise. I tells me he hit the flop with a K (like KQ, AK, or AA, ot 1010 or 55). Would you rather him raise you by $120? Also, why would he think he is going to push you off with a min raise. He is almost pot commited at that point.

You are either in great shape or deep Sh!t here. I lean toward the deep sh!t. You either fold or push here.

I would fold.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

I'm usually folding here. But with him posting UTG, looks like hes bad, may be overvaluing KF, getting stubborn with TJ, may have QJ or just think youre messin with him, and he will not be pushed around.

So, I'll call flop, fold to real bet on turn without improvement.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

Only idiots would say you should either raise or fold. You should either CALL or fold.

Checking is definately not standard (it never is headsup in position as a preflop-raiser at any given board), but it is fine some/a lot of the time.
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Old 06-08-2006, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

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Only idiots would say you should either raise or fold. You should either CALL or fold.

Checking is definately not standard (it never is headsup in position as a preflop-raiser at any given board), but it is fine some/a lot of the time.

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I agree totally. Anyone who says calling is horrible is simply call-phobic... sadly, callphobia seems to be a major problem amongst 2p2ers.

Raising is sooooo bad here. it accomplishes nothing, except guarantees you losing alot to 2 pair or set.

I also agree that checking behind isn't standard vs. an unknown, but certainly would be against the right type of opponents. In this spot however, with only the read that he's likely bad and/or loose (or just misclicked), I bet almost always. but i think its a good spot for a smaller 60%ish bet... it'll be easier for him to make a bad call, and if he's loose you wanna encourage even more loose calls.
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Old 06-08-2006, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

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I'm weird, but I check this flop a lot.

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Checking this flop is not weird at all. Probably actually standard.

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Doubt checking is standard.

I usually call these or push

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How much money are you gonna win with this hand?

I'd rather induce a bluff on the turn and use my position, rather than be stuck wondering if my opponent wants to make a move against me on this flop.

Everyone plays different however.
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Old 06-08-2006, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

OMG freakdaddy! Welcome back!

How's the 100BB challenge coming along?

I would bet less on the flop, and I would just call the min-raise, then play poker on the turn.

Against some villians, with a good image, I will re-raise for value.

And checking is fine and good, on occation, as well. Specific conditions I would prefer to have in place would be agro villian who will fire with air. Some sort of reason for people to think that I might not be continuation betting as frequently as normal. To be seen calling down light, in recent hands.
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Old 06-08-2006, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: FUCKIGN MINRAISERS

call, AI on turn.
easiest hand, i love busting ppl on their first hand in the game.
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