Ray Zee/J.A. Sucker Book Prediction

thedorf · #1 06-05-2006, 11:06 PM

A while back there was some speculation as to how Zee and Sucker would relate the topics of high stakes holdem and short handed holdem in their upcoming book. I've been thinking about it a little more as I play and read the forums about short handed/high stakes (haven't played any high stakes yet, just read) and one thing that would seem to be similar between the two games is the degree to which your ability to play well from the blinds determines your success. I'm sure that for a lot of you I'm stating the obvious but if I'm not mistaken, your ability in the blinds is a vastly more important skill in short handed and high stakes than in low to mid stakes full ring games. I hope their book talks about this in depth as I'm not the only one concerned with improving this aspect of my game. I don't remember the thread name but someone recently posted a topic entitled something to the effect of "what topic would you most like to see written about?" and there were some well respected players who wanted to see more on the topic of blind play. Thoughts??

Peter666 · #2 06-06-2006, 02:39 AM

My only thoughts are to encourage the writers to get this book out as soon as possible. There is a serious vacuum that needs to be filled here.

pippetto · #3 06-06-2006, 06:15 AM

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My only thoughts are to encourage the writers to get this book out as soon as possible. There is a serious vacuum that needs to be filled here.

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I completely agree

PJS · #4 06-06-2006, 10:31 AM

I always like these books to come out as soon as possible, but I'd rather it take a bit longer if it means that it will be more thorough, and that something won't be mistakenly overlooked. I'm sure it will be a top book though, and am really looking forward to it.

Ray Zee · #5 06-07-2006, 12:44 AM

dorf your wishes will be honored.
it takes a long time to get all the stuff straight without mistakes. and convincing sucker to let me put in ten chapters on fishing as i know that is what most people really want to read about.

uDevil · #6 06-07-2006, 01:29 AM

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dorf your wishes will be honored.
it takes a long time to get all the stuff straight without mistakes. and convincing sucker to let me put in ten chapters on fishing as i know that is what most people really want to read about.

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Hooray!

If you can teach me to play my blinds well, you can put in all the fishing chapters you want.

thedorf · #7 06-07-2006, 02:46 AM

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dorf your wishes will be honored.
it takes a long time to get all the stuff straight without mistakes. and convincing sucker to let me put in ten chapters on fishing as i know that is what most people really want to read about.

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Good news. Take your time. You can write a poker book anytime. June fishing comes but once a year.

J.A.Sucker · #8 06-08-2006, 01:06 PM

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dorf your wishes will be honored.
it takes a long time to get all the stuff straight without mistakes. and convincing sucker to let me put in ten chapters on fishing as i know that is what most people really want to read about.

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Good news. Take your time. You can write a poker book anytime. June fishing comes but once a year.

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That's all this guy needs is somebody encouraging him to go fishing. Stop tempting him. I'm just jealous I suppose because I'm no longer a country boy and don't even have a fishing license anymore, my fly rod is in storage and my spin casting stuff is MIA. Ugh.

J.A.Sucker · #9 06-08-2006, 01:10 PM

Zee is right; blind play is discussed at length in a variety of contexts. Of course, there's a lot more than just blind play to beating high limit/shorthanded games and they are covered in depth as well. Needless to say, you'll be pleased, but it takes quite a bit of time to get complex ideas across in a clear way while making sure everything is correct, so be patient. Plus, that Zee guy keeps trying to put in stories about the deer at his house eating his newly planted trees. If he put in owl stories, I'd keep them, but deer? C'mon!

thedorf · #10 06-08-2006, 01:59 PM

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I'm just jealous I suppose because I'm no longer a country boy and don't even have a fishing license anymore, my fly rod is in storage and my spin casting stuff is MIA. Ugh.

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I stopped fishing for about 2 years once and inevitably I would find myself driving by a lake on opening day each of those years and got a sinking feeling in my gut for not being there. Like I wasn't fulfilling a duty or something. Then i Bought my brother's boat in january with money I won after winning over 20K in two months playing six max on party 15/30-20/40 so I'm now fulfilling my fishing "duties" again. I usually pay my wife 60% of my profits and put the rest in the bankroll but she was in a really good mood the day I suggested that a boat would be a good idea and let me use 5k from her cut.

Then I went down 8k in those games over 2.5 months which IMO is too long of a downswing to blame on variance. Now I'm back to the full ring games and winning consistently as I did for the 2 years before 6 max. It's amazing how much more comfortable i am with the full games.

anyway, I'm hoping to get a little more training in shorthanded after your book comes out because game selection is a bit more difficult now that the SH limit games are so popular. Hopefully i'm not busto by then but if i am at least i'll be able to eat bass for dinner.