Party 100 vs Kukavica

[JeffO]

For those who aren't familiar with Kukavica he is an aggressive thinking player. 18/12/1.8

I'm in the BB and am dealt Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG limps, Kukavica raises from the CO, and I call from the BB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Flop is 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Checked to Kuka who bets I call hoping to keep UTG in the hand, UTG calls.

Turn is the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] For a board of 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I lead out

Thoughts?

[DcifrThs]

standard. c'c/donk is the new c'r.

Barron

[Kayber2]

Very interesting. I like it. I also like the check/call on the flop. I've been check/calling my draws a bit more on low boards where a thinking player will 3 bet an AJ, AQ, AK since he's smart enough to gather that we probably have a draw.

[Kyle]

OP,

Could you go into more detail about your flop call?

I am assuming you want to keep UTG in the hand in order to keep the pot protected, which will increase your fold equity against the good player if you decide to take a shot at the pot.

Am I on the right track? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Keepitsimple]

I am not sure I like it since a pp isnt folding and a single ace made a straight. I would have liked it if the turn was a 6-J.

[AndyatSD]

In my opinion, the only hands in Kuka's range here that you put him on a tough decision is KQ/KJ/QJ. IE, a legit non-PP non-ace hand. If that's the case, then either check-raising the flop or betting out on the flop would have put more pressure on him.

If you wanted to keep UTG in the hand I think betting out would have done the trick... he either has a hand he's going to call or he's not going to call just because he can seal the action (most PP 1/2ers don't think like that).

I'm not saying the check-call flop - lead turn line is bad, I just feel it's inconsistent logic.

I don't see what hands you're trying to get him to fold/not raise.

Maybe I need to think about it more, but that's all for now. I feel Kuka's one of the better players on the PP 1/2, I'd have just lead out flop and 3 bet and hope that I hit / he doesn't / some combination thereof.

Ok that's it for my once every half a year post.

~andy

[flawless_victory]

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OP,

Could you go into more detail about your flop call?

I am assuming you want to keep UTG in the hand in order to keep the pot protected, which will increase your fold equity against the good player if you decide to take a shot at the pot.

Am I on the right track? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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sorry, but you are not on the right track.
he has Qhi.
CRing flop and betting all the way gets called down by about AJ+ and punished w/ a turn raise on a blank 90% of the time.

[Kyle]

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OP,

Could you go into more detail about your flop call?

I am assuming you want to keep UTG in the hand in order to keep the pot protected, which will increase your fold equity against the good player if you decide to take a shot at the pot.

Am I on the right track? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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sorry, but you are not on the right track.
he has Qhi.
CRing flop and betting all the way gets called down by about AJ+ and punished w/ a turn raise on a blank 90% of the time.

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So by calling the flop and donking the turn we increase the fold equity of our semi bluff since the thinking player puts less weight to the possiblity of you bluffing with two other players in the pot one of which seems loose and fishy?

[flawless_victory]

he bet because a scary card came dude.
where are you?

[Kyle]

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he bet because a scary card came dude.
where are you?

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Over thinking the [censored] out of this hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]