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Old 04-21-2006, 11:24 PM
A_PLUS A_PLUS is offline
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Default Re: I usually post folds, so here\'s a sick call

I dont know, I see this a lot with an Ace, hoping to avoid a chop. It comes down to how often you think this is a total bluff (non-A), I dont hate it though
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Old 04-21-2006, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: I usually post folds, so here\'s a sick call

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Opponent is pretty bad. He likes completing the SB, minbetting flops, and walks on the beach.

[/ QUOTE ]This seriously made laugh for a solid minute. NH.

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I thought it was some odd poker jargon I hadn't heard before for about a second.
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: I usually post folds, so here\'s a sick call

Fantastic call. Villian would have bet an Ace or King on that flop (especially given his chip stack -- in fact, he probably would have pushed preflop). Villian would not have overbet the river with a J or T, since all the hero had done was check, check, check. Absolutely great call, I think. I would have never done it myself.

Hopefully he said something like "you can't bluff a donkey" when you made the call.
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: I usually post folds, so here\'s a sick call

Standard! (Yes, even at $150 + buyin tourneys. Yes I make these plays every day.)
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:48 AM
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I think its possible he has a pair smaller than T's and got counterfitted on the river.

[/ QUOTE ] I think that's very unlikely.
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: I usually post folds, so here\'s a sick call

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When he checks the flop I am relatively sure he has caught absolutely nothing.

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Why?

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Opponent is pretty bad.

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He likes completing the SB, minbetting flops

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Flop: (t200) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks

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Seems like a formula for a man who has trips to me.


That being said, his action on later streets changes this significantly, but I'm still curious how you can be sure he whiffed the flop by the fact that he checked it.
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:51 AM
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I'm still curious how you can be sure he whiffed the flop by the fact that he checked it.

[/ QUOTE ] The overbet on the river confirmed his initial feelings.
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: I usually post folds, so here\'s a sick call

adanthar, would you have called the river bet if he had only bet t150?
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: I usually post folds, so here\'s a sick call


the river overbet is also quite standard from a poor player who missed his slowplay and is now trying to get all the value he can.
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Old 04-22-2006, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: I usually post folds, so here\'s a sick call

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the river overbet is also quite standard from a poor player who missed his slowplay and is now trying to get all the value he can.

[/ QUOTE ] yes, that can happen, but given that there are only 4 cards in the deck that could help him, a much more likely scenario is that he completed the SB hoping to see a cheap flop, missed the flop, then saw an opportunity to steal the hand on the scary river.

The main reason I don't think the villian had a T or J is that adanthar didn't do anything in this hand -- he checked preflop, he checked the flop, he checked the turn. Even the stupidest donkey is going to notice that and bet small to extract a bit of money out of him.
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