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#41
04-21-2006, 10:42 AM
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Re: Incident at the WPT championship
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I have gone back and forth about Hellmuth, but in this case, he was the complete donk. Guy min-raises preflop, and Phil didn't respect the fact that something might be up, and repop him serious or leave it alone. He puts the guy on a hand, and the flop gives the guy the nuts if Phil is correct in his read. Turns out, Phil is wrong about the hand anyway. Phil turns into a calling station. A complete, utter calling station. And berates the dude about getting Phil to call down his relatively small bets until he hits. Hehe. [/ QUOTE ] I get great laughs from "Smart; Seasoned; Knowing; Experienced; Big Time; Big Bucks" players who can't/won't give someone "less than them" making a non-textbook play. Isn't changing gears and mixing your play one of the subtle/sophisticated parts of the game? If we all know A is the "correct" play and I occasionally do B, does that make me dumb - or a little smarter than you want to credit me for? If I'm willing to bet my stack that you'll look to/for the obvious, who's the donk when I don't? And win. Yeah, Phil, if we all played according to your strategies, strictly and only, maybe you'd own the world. There's a great line in the movie Patton. After their first battle, which Patton won decisively against Rommel, George C. Scott's line was something like, "I read your book, you son of a bitch!" He knew the Desert Fox's theories and what he tended to do - and used it against him to kick his ass. 
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#44
04-21-2006, 11:40 AM
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Re: Incident at the WPT championship
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[ QUOTE ] Hellmuth goes off on one Hellmuth was second to act and opened up the betting at $6,000. The button raised it $6,000 more and Hellmuth called. The button is an unknown, though Hellmuth has already used various 'colorful' words to describe him. The show was about to begin as Hellmuth thought out loud,''Must have KK or AA.'' Here comes the flop... Ks 6s 9c Phil checked and his lone opponent bet $7,000. ''Wow, $7,000, that's a pretty big bet there,'' said Hellmuth as he called. The turn... Kd Phil checked and called $14,000 while saying ''Wow, NICE hand buddy.'' The river brought along the... 5c Phil checked and his 'good friend' from across the table bet $15,000. Phil called the bet and anxiously leaned forward to see what he was up against. Well, he was shown... Phil jumped out of his chair, took one last look at his jacks, slammed his headphones down on the floor, and began shouting,''AWWWWW NO!! YOU [censored] [censored]!! TRYING TO GIVE ME YOUR [censored] CHIPS YOU [censored] SON OF A BITCH [censored]. [censored] RIDICULOUS I PLAY [censored] PERFECT ALL [censored] DAY AND YOU TRY TO GIVE ME ALL YOUR [censored] CHIPS AND YOU [censored] GET LUCKY. ALL THOSE CHIPS ARE [censored] MINE YOU [censored] GENIUS.... YOU CAN'T EVEN SPELL POKER YOU [censored] [censored]!!! BLUFFING OFF ALL YOUR CHIPS!! [censored]!!!'' A very sympathetic Doyle Brunson leaned back from the table next door and said,''Now Phil, tell us how you really feel about it.'' I don't think he needed much encouragement from Doyle to continue his rant, which is probably still ongoing. [/ QUOTE ] I have gone back and forth about Hellmuth, but in this case, he was the complete donk. Guy min-raises preflop, and Phil didn't respect the fact that something might be up, and repop him serious or leave it alone. He puts the guy on a hand, and the flop gives the guy the nuts if Phil is correct in his read. Turns out, Phil is wrong about the hand anyway. Phil turns into a calling station. A complete, utter calling station. And berates the dude about getting Phil to call down his relatively small bets until he hits. Hehe. [/ QUOTE ] Post is totally inaccurate. HOw do people manage to feel so strongly about things that they know so little about?
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#46
04-21-2006, 12:55 PM
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Re: Incident at the WPT championship
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While Deeb has always shown alot of spunk, the guy is 5'2 at best, in all seriousness. I met him in Tunica as a WSOP circuit event. [/ QUOTE ] At the '05 Shooting Star I had the pleasure of busting him for a 5K bounty.I'd say he's exactly 5'2",the same height as my wife. I'm 5'11",135 lbs. with no combat training at all and I'm sure I could take him.
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#47
04-21-2006, 03:12 PM
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I'm 5'11",135 lbs. with no combat training at all and I'm sure I could take him. [/ QUOTE ] This is soooooooo funny! In soooooooo many ways! <ul type="square"> [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img][/list]
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#49
04-22-2006, 02:16 AM
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I'm 5'11",135 lbs. with no combat training at all and I'm sure I could take him. [/ QUOTE ] You're boasting you could take down a 50-yr old 5'2" man? I doubt you could anyway. Freddy would do whatever it took to win.
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#50
04-22-2006, 03:08 AM
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Re: Incident at the WPT championship
i agree in the hellmuth hand that the amateur played it like a [censored] moron, but check-calling that turn is retarded (based on what i understand the stack sizes were)
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