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Old 04-19-2006, 01:32 PM
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I definitely just call the river.

Did you consider a bet/3-bet line on the flop in hopes the button LAG would raise and drive out opponents?
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:37 PM
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I'll add my voice to the chorus of just calling the river and hoping for the overcall.

Nice flop checkraise.
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:51 PM
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I prefer betting the flop and checkraising the turn.

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Why?
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:38 PM
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I call getting 11:1 or so. Folding is probably OK if he's passive. Raising isn't an option. If the LAG raises and BB calls then I call again and fold if it's 2 back to me.

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Folding is not an option.

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Folding is not an option, I agree. I like a call.
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:51 PM
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Just call. The LAG may raise the worst hand for you.
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Old 04-19-2006, 04:16 PM
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I can see both sides. I like raising because I think LAG is likely to call two cold with an ace. I also like the flop play.

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Old 04-19-2006, 05:13 PM
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Folding is horrible, raising is bad, calling is AWESOME!

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Seems right to me...

...why the hell would we ever fold?

...Raising seems pretty stupid particularly considering we can likely get the value we want from the button overcalling behind us anyway.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:24 PM
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Will someone explain why a flop checkraise is good? To me, this seems like a textbook example to bet into the LAG and face the BB who probably has a good chunk of outs against you with two bets. I bet this flop without a second thought every time.

Then you get to 3-bet too which is fun.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:52 PM
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Doesn't it really come down to how agg. the BB is? I can see both sides of the arguement here, if the guy is passive, then I really like a call, if he is more on the agg. side then I think raising might be best. If he had just an ace he would prob bet it bc he might fear having it checked around (he also would play Aces up this way too of course) Interesting spot.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:59 PM
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I really want to raise this river.

It really looks like "loose" BB caught an ace he was chasing. Most of A,x Hero beats. And since Button is a LAG, he'll often come along for two bets.


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