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Josh: If you're borderline DWI, how do you know you're "clearly fine to drive"?

Imitation: "sklansky 8 year old girls" - fanfuckingtastic.

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I'm a such a [censored] idiot.

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Pretty much. I'm glad it took this instead of you swerving off the road and killing someone for you to learn your lesson.

But seriously, 6+ drinks and you take the wheel? You are a [censored] idiot. What went through your head?

You are the type of person I openly detest, absolutely zero regard for what your drunken state can do to potentially harm another perfectly innocent person. Yes, people make mistakes, but you need to look dead cold in your face in the mirror next morning when you take a shower and thank God or whatever the hell you believe that you aren't incarcerated for running over some 8 year old girl.

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Ever drive tired, stressed, talk on your phone (including hands free) while driving, dude kill yourself now 8 bears over 6 hours is 0.05 if they are mid strength, if they are heavy (and as far as I know all american beer is weak as piss) then he'd still be very close to 0.08 which is in a better state to drive than any of the mentioned above things that I am sure you have done. Do you ever stop and think about how many sklansky 8 year old girls you've killed with your total disregard for responsible driving. In closing drink driving is bad, people in this thread are stupid, op is stupider. But so am I and nobodies perfect.

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i made a long post saying pretty much the same thing, but i'm a pussy so i deleted it. but the cliff notes version was: clayton, you are a judgmental douchebag and are the type of person that I detest. everyone makes mistakes and he was probably borderline DWI. it's not like he was wasted

it's also possible that some people drive more carefully when they are slightly drunk for fear of getting pulled over. i know this is true in my case. there have been two instances in my life where i might or might not have been over the legal limit but the fear that i might have been kept me driving <5 mph over the speed limit, whereas i drive like an idiot when i'm sober. but i guess by clayton's logic, those 2 instances make me worthy of death and everyone who seems me should spit on me. just some food for thought

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Hi Josh,

You are a very bright kid and I rarely disagree with you on these boards. You do not deserve to be killed. Your post does not make sense though. Driving slower and in a way that you perceive as more cautiously will not make up for the impairment in you reaction time and judgement that can occur at close to the legal limit. I think as a respected leader of this forum you really need to rethink this line.

Next time you swing through southern cali I would be happy to take you to work with me and introduce you to lots of people who thought they were driving cautiously or that the person who hit them was.

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Bliiip try again surfdoc your post is the one that's wrong. Josh is trying to quantify his impaired driving skills when drinking at or slightly above the legal limit with increased attention and focus. Doesn't this neccesarily imply that his driving skills would be at a level below those of a normally careless drink driver or perhaps the averaged drink driving skill level given that government agencies no doubt combine drinking effects on ones motor skills as well as probably bumping up the effect some by assuming drivers are arrogant, over zealous etc.

So many pots calling the kettle black here.

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it's hard to say because i really have no concept of what's what level. i was just making a point that people make mistakes and that there's a huge difference between someone who's wasted and someone who had a couple of beers in an hour or two. obviously if the law is a certain level, then it's unsafe above that level. fine. but if someone makes an error in judgment and has 1 drink too many, it's a little ridiculous to say that they should burn in hell. in hs i was the kid that wouldnt get drunk at a party because i knew my friends would be willing to drive home, so it's not like i think it's an ok thing to do. but people make mistakes. i'm not justifying what the guy did. my whole point was just that clayton is a douchebag. by saying he detests people like the OP, he's saying he detests probably 80-90% of the population

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Bliiip try again surfdoc your post is the one that's wrong. Josh is trying to quantify his impaired driving skills when drinking at or slightly above the legal limit with increased attention and focus. Doesn't this neccesarily imply that his driving skills would be at a level below those of a normally careless drink driver or perhaps the averaged drink driving skill level given that government agencies no doubt combine drinking effects on ones motor skills as well as probably bumping up the effect some by assuming drivers are arrogant, over zealous etc.

So many pots calling the kettle black here.

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yeah the point was that instead of driving 90 in a 55 or 60 in a 35 like i usually would, i'd be driving 5 mph over. driving that fast can hinder someone's reaction time more than driving .01 above the legal limit

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Driving slower and in a way that you perceive as more cautiously will not make up for the impairment in you reaction time and judgement that can occur at close to the legal limit.

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This is just flat-out M.A.D.D. propaganda. The legal DWI limit is very low on the scale of drunkeness. I'm not going to bother to find them now (you can if you want), but there have been numerous studies that show driving while talking on cell phone or driving while tired is much more dangerous than driving with BAC of .08. The truly dangerous drunk drivers are the ones driving around at .25 or .30, not the people who drive after four or five beers.

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I refused a blood test years back and beat a DUI. The cops messed up by video taping me during the sobriety tests. Even thought I was drinking for over 12 hours I looked totally sober during the tests and a jury of my peers agreed and I ended up walking faster than O.J. I'm guessing that I would of blown close to a .30 or higher and ended up walking. Gotta love America.

I would suggest calling a lawyer and not posting on here anymore about how many beers you had in a night. "Remember what you say can and will be held against you!" One of these pricks on here are liable you send a copy of this post to your local D.A.

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Obviously you know nothing about alcohol comsumption... If you would have blown a .30 or higher, you would have exactly 0 chance of passing a sobriety test. But this is BBV, maybe you were bragging about how much you think you can drink...

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I refused a blood test years back and beat a DUI. The cops messed up by video taping me during the sobriety tests. Even thought I was drinking for over 12 hours I looked totally sober during the tests and a jury of my peers agreed and I ended up walking faster than O.J. I'm guessing that I would of blown close to a .30 or higher and ended up walking. Gotta love America.

I would suggest calling a lawyer and not posting on here anymore about how many beers you had in a night. "Remember what you say can and will be held against you!" One of these pricks on here are liable you send a copy of this post to your local D.A.

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Obviously you know nothing about alcohol comsumption... If you would have blown a .30 or higher, you would have exactly 0 chance of passing a sobriety test. But this is BBV, maybe you were bragging about how much you think you can drink...

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He didn't pass (pretty much, no one ever passes) he got arrested. He just wasn't stumbling and swaying and whatnot, so when the jury saw the tape, they couldn't conclude that he was drunk beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Josh, obviously it's a question of degree, yeah. But just because there's a huge difference between someone who is wasted and someone who is only a little drunk doesn't mean the latter is OK.

To those of you saying driving using a cell phone is dangerous therefore driving in another state which is dangerous is alright, that's a ridiculous argument. Incidentally, it's illegal to use a cell phone while driving in the UK and I think this should be the case everywhere.

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To those of you saying driving using a cell phone is dangerous therefore driving in another state which is dangerous is alright, that's a ridiculous argument. Incidentally, it's illegal to use a cell phone while driving in the UK and I think this should be the case everywhere.

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It's illegal in some states over here too. But no one goes around villifying cell phone-talking drivers.