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Old 04-09-2006, 11:19 PM
grandgnu grandgnu is offline
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Default Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

Right after the first break, Hero is down to 3800 chips, blinds 100/200.

Hero limps in EP with 3/3. Bunch of limpers, SB folds and BB raps, pot is 1100, Hero has 3600 behind.

Flop is 3/5/8 rainbow.

Checked to Hero by the BB. I want action, this rainbow flop is good for me, someone might develop a draw on the turn, but I figure to have the best hand and hope it will stay that way. I don't want to squander this set though, so I'm hoping for some action.

With 1100 in the pot, I lead out for 700, leaving myself 2900 behind. MP limper calls as does the BB. Pot is now 3,200.

Turn is a 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], which presents a potential flush draw to spades now. BB fires out 700 chips into the 3200 pot?

Now I'm worried that he might have the magical 4/6 or A/4 and I've just been outdrawn, pretty much the worst card that could've hit for me on that flop (well, one of them anyway).

I decide to just smooth-call with position, the MP limper gets out. Pot is now 4,600. River is an offsuit Queen, I have 2200 chips left and the BB fires out 1500 chips.

I call and he has the 4/6 and I'm down to 700 left.

Should I have bet more on the flop? Should I have considered folding on the turn?

This was my first time playing the 500K, so I'm used to players overvaluing single pair hands or gutshot straight draws. I had no reads on this player yet, was fairly new to the table.
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:21 PM
NHFunkii NHFunkii is offline
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

yeah you should have folded the turn with a set on a 2358 board getting 4.5:1

raise the turn, push the river, you SHOULD go bust on this hand.
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

Actually my line with 33 in EP is a probable fold pf... but i think you played it goot...

its not a particularly coordinated flop... I probably would have potted the flop with bottom set in a multiway pot... but I think your 3/4 bet is solid here...

FWIW... I think SB fires out with maybe some weird two pair on the turn...figuring you for a small overpair to the board...... and I prolly just go AI right there even though we now know you're a big dog...
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:31 PM
Matador225 Matador225 is offline
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

No way you should consider folding the turn. You are just destined to go broke here.
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Old 04-09-2006, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

Why are there so many bad beat posts on the forum recently? Push the turn. The flop is fine. Preflop is fine at a loose-passive table, I'd fold normally.

Steve
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Old 04-10-2006, 03:52 AM
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

You can't play results based poker.
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Old 04-10-2006, 04:25 AM
chopchoi chopchoi is offline
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

With an M of 12, fold 33 in EP. Other than that you played it fine.
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Old 04-10-2006, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

Push turn.
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Old 04-10-2006, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

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Old 04-10-2006, 05:58 AM
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Default Re: Party 500K Flopped Bottom Set, How Can I Play This Better?

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You can't play results based poker.

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This is the best first post I have ever seen.

Kudos.
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