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#51
04-06-2006, 03:14 AM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
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I'm going to bed, and I don't really see how anyone can answer that question. [/ QUOTE ] I don't see how you can decide whether to push or fold without at least grappling with this fundamental question. 
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#53
04-06-2006, 10:31 AM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
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I think in order to decide whether pushing is correct, you have to be able to answer the below question: [ QUOTE ] Do we have a better chance to win this tournament if we push and are out 53% of the time and double up 47% of the time to 20BBs? Or, do we have a better chance if we survive 100% of the time with our 10BBs? [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Yes (if by 20 you mean ~23.5); no.
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#54
04-06-2006, 11:28 AM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
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This isn't close and no vomitting is necessary. A stop and go sucks because you really want to be all in against AK here preflop, and you will never fold out a better hand on the flop and you will occasionally fold a worse hand. [/ QUOTE ] Why would you rather be allin preflop against AK than stop n going here? Also i think the times you fold a worse hand are about equivalent to the times you fold a better hand
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#55
04-06-2006, 11:44 AM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
Just because villain showed you a better hand that was in his range, doesn't mean you could possibly fold this hand. I push everytime.
I agree that there is a margin of error in the range that you gave villain, as there almost always is. It's easy to kick yourself when the result isn't favorable.
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#56
04-06-2006, 11:57 AM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
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Just because villain showed you a better hand that was in his range, doesn't mean you could possibly fold this hand. I push everytime. I agree that there is a margin of error in the range that you gave villain, as there almost always is. It's easy to kick yourself when the result isn't favorable. [/ QUOTE ] Is the fact that you push this every time due to the fact you don't believe his range? If you stipulate that his range is accurate and we therefore have a slight edge (adjusted for pot odds) do you still push?
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#57
04-06-2006, 11:58 AM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
I have respect for UTG+1 raises after a UTG limp. Especailly vs a tight player. Now what would be your realistic range vs a TIGHT PLAYER? Someone said KQ/AJ(????), seriously trust your reads if you don't then don't even bother making them. I fold this with a smile all day and find myself much better spots to get it in with <10BBs and LP.
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#58
04-06-2006, 11:58 AM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
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Why would you rather be allin preflop against AK than stop n going here? [/ QUOTE ] Because you're a favorite and not in good enough chip position that you don't want to maximize this edge. [ QUOTE ] Also i think the times you fold a worse hand are about equivalent to the times you fold a better hand [/ QUOTE ] Really? What better hand than a pair of jacks is folding on the flop, and on what flop? The only possibility I can think of is QQ on an AKx flop. Hardly equivalent to all the times you fold missed overcards or maybe TT/99 with one or two overs out.
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#59
04-06-2006, 12:04 PM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
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[ QUOTE ] Just because villain showed you a better hand that was in his range, doesn't mean you could possibly fold this hand. I push everytime. I agree that there is a margin of error in the range that you gave villain, as there almost always is. It's easy to kick yourself when the result isn't favorable. [/ QUOTE ] Is the fact that you push this every time due to the fact you don't believe his range? If you stipulate that his range is accurate and we therefore have a slight edge (adjusted for pot odds) do you still push? [/ QUOTE ] Assuming that range is accurate, I push given the odds... Hovering around 10bb, I will take any edge.
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#60
04-06-2006, 12:06 PM
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Re: hero vomits and...? ($150 Stars)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Just because villain showed you a better hand that was in his range, doesn't mean you could possibly fold this hand. I push everytime. I agree that there is a margin of error in the range that you gave villain, as there almost always is. It's easy to kick yourself when the result isn't favorable. [/ QUOTE ] Is the fact that you push this every time due to the fact you don't believe his range? If you stipulate that his range is accurate and we therefore have a slight edge (adjusted for pot odds) do you still push? [/ QUOTE ] Assuming that range is accurate, I push given the odds... Hovering around 10bb, I will take any edge. [/ QUOTE ] But not a straight flip? Why do you take any edge?
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