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Old 06-14-2005, 02:38 PM
nrinker nrinker is offline
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Default winrate for party skins 100nl full?

Anyone know what is attainable here? Anyone played here for a long time?
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Old 06-14-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: winrate for party skins 100nl full?

You should post your own winrate, then at least you'll get some replies.

If your winrate is more than 10PTBB/100 they will sound roughly like this: "Your samplesize is way to small! You're running hot!" And if your winrate is less than 10PTBB/100 more like: "Your samplesize is way to small! A sustainable winrate for a (very) good player should be around 10PTBB/100, could be more could be less, we don't know."
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Old 06-14-2005, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: winrate for party skins 100nl full?

haha, I was asking about possible winrates for this level because I haven't played it (dont have a winrate here).

I have heard that it is not a good game, but it fits my bankroll well, so I am trying to figure out if this is even worth my time.
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Old 06-14-2005, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: winrate for party skins 100nl full?

6max nl games on party are good.
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Old 06-14-2005, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: winrate for party skins 100nl full?

Awesome avatar.
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Old 06-15-2005, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: winrate for party skins 100nl full?

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6max nl games on party are good.

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True. But stop ruining it for those of us who live there already!
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: winrate for party skins 100nl full?

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6max nl games on party are good.

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True. But stop ruining it for those of us who live there already!

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LOL. the secret is out!
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Old 06-14-2005, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: winrate for party skins 100nl full?

if 100nl is not a good game, then what games have you heard are good? I just stepped up to 100nl as well and am wondering what a good winrate would be.
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Old 06-21-2006, 02:29 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: winrate for party skins 100nl full?

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if 100nl is not a good game, then what games have you heard are good? I just stepped up to 100nl as well and am wondering what a good winrate would be.

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It's a good game, just not as good as 6-max. But they are different beasts, so beating them requires different styles.

Full-ring is full of weak-tight players. You can win a LOT of money playing small-ball. But you can lose a lot of money betting POT, POT, POT with your AA out of position against a 12/8/1 player who keeps calling. Get what I'm saying?

6-max is full of action junkies. You can win a LOT of money betting POT, POT, POT (with the occasional check/call on the river) with your AA vs. some 33/8/1 guy who keeps calling. But you can lose a LOT of money trying to C/R-Bluff the same guy on the flop.

In FR, you make money by picking up more than your share of pots, when no one else shows interest, and occasionally getting it all in the middle with your monsters when someone plays back at you.

In 6-max, you make money by Value betting, value betting, value betting, and, oh yeah, betting vs. the calling station when you think you have a better hand.

Having said that, in 6-max you will play many, many, many more pots per/hour than in full ring (putting aside the notion, for the moment, that you can 8-table FR, but only 4-table 6-max, etc), so you will get better at post-flop play faster than you would in Full-Ring.

To put it another way, in Full-Ring, almost all your profit (and indeed, the vast majority of the pots you play) comes from the button, cutoff, hijack, and to some extent 3 off the button. So, in 6-max, you're practicing those positions. So, after say 50k hands of 6-max, when you sit in a full-ring game, against opponents who have played 50k hands of full-ring, you have a LOT more experience playing pots from those positions than they do. This gives you an advantage both when you are in position (they play sub-optimally against you) and when you are out of position (they don't use their position as well as they could).
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Old 06-14-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Official 2+2 Winrate Guidelines !

If that's any help...

Here's the official 2+2 breakdown for GWA (General Winrate Assumptions):


Negative PTBB : Thank god for bonus whoring. Now get back to the Zoo.

0 - 1.4 PTBB : Remember that aces can make straights on both high and low ends !

1.5 - 2.4 PTBB : No, 5678 does not beat ace high.

2.5 - 4 PTBB : I bet you're typing "nh.." pretty damn often.

4.1 - 6 PTBB : No, a LAG isn't a problem in your internet connection.

6.1 - 8 PTBB : Hmmm... yeah .. not bad .. not bad .. come back in 50k hands and we'll see ..

8.1 - 10 PTBB : You have OBVIOUSLY being bad beating a lot of people. It's because of people like you that some of us sane winning players are throwing rigged theories around ! Stay away from my table you lucky fish !!!

10.1 + PTBB : Okay junior, enough with the bullshit. With that sample size, we can't even tell if you're a winning player AT ALL. You need at least 500 posts to be considered a serious poker player. You might not even be worthy of existing yet ! Spread your non-sense lies elsewhere ! I'm notifying the moderator !
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