Player Discussion

Mason Malmuth · #1 11-12-2005, 07:46 AM

Hi Everyone:

I thought I would pass along a little discussion that I took part in tonight. I've been trying to play some no limit hold 'em since it has become so popular and we are publishing books on this subject, so earlier this evening I was sitting in a $5-$10 blind no limit game at The Wynn.

What happen was that a player raised to $40 and then got reraised to $150. The original raiser then folded and showed A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. His opponent then showed J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

This of course started a discussion as to which hand was better. Most of the table agreed that the pair of jacks were better since they would win over 50 percent of the time in a show down. Then someone said, "Let's ask Mason since he writes all the books." My answer was that if someone was all-in, the jacks would be better, but if they each had chips left, which was the case here, the ace-queen suited was better.

Well, no one understood what I was talking about. No wonder the games are good.

Best wishes,
Mason

KaneKungFu123 · #2 11-12-2005, 07:50 AM

with position and the advantage of being the aggressor, id perfer jj to aq.

bkholdem · #3 11-12-2005, 02:01 PM

In addition to position and who is agressing, wouldn't a lot depend on the individual players skill sets?

Larry David · #4 11-12-2005, 07:53 AM

I prefer JJ over AQs in any NL game regardless of stack size. Do you see why?

Jason Strasser (strassa2) · #5 11-12-2005, 08:02 AM

I'll take JJ over any ace any day.

RikaKazak · #6 11-12-2005, 08:31 AM

I would rather have position, the next option would be JJ WAY OVER AQ, not even close.

Larry David · #7 11-12-2005, 08:34 AM

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I would rather have position, the next option would be JJ WAY OVER AQ, not even close.

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Position is great and all, but position or no position, I would MUCH rather have JJ than AQ.

Roman · #8 11-12-2005, 09:03 AM

JJ is a lot more valuable than AQ in a cash game... I see the point you are TRYING to make, but your example sucks.

KaneKungFu123 · #9 11-12-2005, 09:08 AM

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JJ is a lot more valuable than AQ in a cash game... I see the point you are TRYING to make, but your example sucks.

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actually position/being the aggressor is alot more valuable. JJ is better HU then AQ, but its not a huge margin.

punter11235 · #10 11-12-2005, 09:20 AM

I think that 99 is better than AK headsup. The more chips the bigger an advantage... AQ vs JJ in not even close imo.

Best wishes