Dude cold calls for half his stack preflop, just give up?

[smittyuiop]

$69 single table. Made the raise cuz the open raiser had been min raising a ton and I'd been playing tight as hell. SB hasn't been that active so no real read.
Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 40/80 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): 1,485
SB: 1,078
BB: 2,022
UTG: 3,180
UTG+1: 1,350
MP1: 1,390
MP2: 1,340
CO: 1,655

Pre-Flop: (120) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
4 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to 160</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to 510</font>, SB calls 470, 2 folds

Flop: (1,260) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero ...

He has 500 left i have 1000 or so. Do you stick him in on the flop, or am I 100% crushed and is he 100% calling?

[RRizGod]

100% crushed by a good player.

[sippin_criss]

obv he is not a good player. shove pf if you think he is fos, getting in these awkward situations without a monster really sucks. he seems like the type of guy that will look you up with AQ on the flop.

[BHokie1]

Fold PF, on the flop sounds like sb has you crushed.

I know your raise was simply trying to pick up the blinds and the min-raise, but it can leave you in a bad spot. You're in a healthy position in the tournament before this hand and now you've put in 1/3 of your stack with marginal holdings.

You're raise even if only called by the co min-raiser would leave you in a bad spot also, with a pot of ~1100 and both you and co ~1000 stacks and no room to c-bet.

If you really want to pick off the min-raise - a shove is better.
fold &gt; shove &gt; what you did.

[jurrasstoil]

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Fold PF, on the flop sounds like sb has you crushed.

I know your raise was simply trying to pick up the blinds and the min-raise, but it can leave you in a bad spot. You're in a healthy position in the tournament before this hand and now you've put in 1/3 of your stack with marginal holdings.

You're raise even if only called by the co min-raiser would leave you in a bad spot also, with a pot of ~1100 and both you and co ~1000 stacks and no room to c-bet.

If you really want to pick off the min-raise - a shove is better.
fold &gt; shove &gt; stick forks in your eyes &gt; what you did.

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[runhot]

if youre about to bang your head against the wall from this guy minraising, a call pf is better than sticking in 1/3 ur stack with two ppl yet to act.

just calling leaves you room to play a flop and fold when the sb wakes up with aa and shoves pf.

but obv just folding is 183% better than calling. but imo a call is &gt; 3bet. you have position and guys like this check alot of flops and fold to small bets.

[DetroitHustle]

I 100% fold preflop.
On the HH u posted it says Hero 1485
CO: 1655.
So how does he have 500 left and you have 1000. Shouldnt you guys be about even (him actually 100+ more chips than you).
I dont think i'd get myself in this situation with A8 BUT if i did i think after being checked to im shoving the flop (if his stack is really what it reads on the HH posted 1655 so about 1000 post flop).

[DetroitHustle]

i'd shove over pf from one of the blinds if villian was on the button and had been doing this.

[eurythmech]

Guys guys, it was the sb who called, not the co.
Also, I hate the threebet.

As for the flop, I like sticking it in now. What even half way decent player calls for half stack and then checks flop?

[DetroitHustle]

&lt;-----stupid and should have read HH better