Toss Up hands

theKryptonian · #1 10-03-2007, 05:19 AM

Hello all,

I have been seeing this around and its a question I do not understand.
What is a Toss up hand?
Can anyone explain it fully to me?

Many Thanks

McGrain · #2 10-03-2007, 06:35 AM

I guess it would be something like AK suited v 22 in an all in situation, pre-flop. 22 is the favourite going in but the chances of AK improving to win are just under 50% and so it's referred to as a toss up, a coin toss.

It's not actually a coin toss - the pocket pair is favourite. But you can see the difference between something like AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] v 22 and AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] v AQ off.

PantsOnFire · #3 10-03-2007, 11:07 AM

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I guess it would be something like AK suited v 22 in an all in situation, pre-flop. 22 is the favourite going in but the chances of AK improving to win are just under 50% and so it's referred to as a toss up, a coin toss.

It's not actually a coin toss - the pocket pair is favourite. But you can see the difference between something like AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] v 22 and AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] v AQ off.

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This will be my nit post of the day and on top of it I could be wrong. I don't have any poker software and didn't look this up but I think a red AK suited is a slight favourite over two black deuces.

McGrain · #4 10-03-2007, 11:21 AM

Be sure and get back to me on that one.

PantsOnFire · #5 10-03-2007, 07:24 PM

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.916% 49.60% 00.31% 849322 5387.50 { 2c2s }
Hand 1: 50.084% 49.77% 00.31% 852207 5387.50 { AhKh }

bigfrank · #6 10-03-2007, 07:34 PM

yeah hands like AK are tossups

McGrain · #7 10-04-2007, 08:07 AM

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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.916% 49.60% 00.31% 849322 5387.50 { 2c2s }
Hand 1: 50.084% 49.77% 00.31% 852207 5387.50 { AhKh }

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Fascinating stuff. So AK suited RED is a tiny favourite v any black pair. To my shame, I did not know that.

If you are of a mind, what's the story if your man is holding 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] v AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?