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Old 02-16-2006, 06:46 PM
jonny quest jonny quest is offline
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Default Was this hand played wrong? KK

I realize it's around 1 in 24 that pockets Kings face Aces, but would anyone have played this hand differently? Thanks.

Seat 1: jonnyquest x [KHKS] ($5,335 in chips)
Seat 2: golph69 ($25,625 in chips)
Seat 3: pugnax02 ($5,065 in chips)
Seat 4: superman2320 ($2,945 in chips)
Seat 5: Kvasimodo1 ($15,175 in chips)
Seat 6: poull55 ($17,670 in chips)
Seat 7: GStreet313 ($4,500 in chips)
Seat 8: peehoo x ($3,911 in chips)
Seat 9: AZZI25 ($18,037 in chips)
Seat 10: tgn ($19,185 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
tgn posts blind ($150), jonnyquest x posts blind ($300).

PRE-FLOP
golph69 calls $300, pugnax02 folds, superman2320 folds, Kvasimodo1 folds, poull55 folds, GStreet313 calls $300, peehoo x folds, AZZI25 folds, tgn folds, jonnyquest x bets $1,900, golph69 calls $1,900, GStreet313 bets $4,200 and is all-in, jonnyquest x bets $3,135 and is all-in, golph69 calls $3,135.

FLOP [board cards 7H,3D,8C ]


TURN [board cards 7H,3D,8C,9S ]


RIVER [board cards 7H,3D,8C,9S,8H ]


SHOWDOWN
jonnyquest x shows [ KH,KS ]
golph69 shows [ 10D,KD ]
GStreet313 shows [ AS,AC ]
jonnyquest x wins $1,670, GStreet313 wins $13,650.



SUMMARY
Dealer: AZZI25
Pot: $15,320
jonnyquest x, bets $5,335, collects $1,670, net -$3,665
golph69, loses $5,335
pugnax02, loses $0
superman2320, loses $0
Kvasimodo1, loses $0
poull55, loses $0
GStreet313, bets $4,500, collects $13,650, net $9,150
peehoo x, loses $0
AZZI25, loses $0
tgn, loses $150
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Old 02-16-2006, 06:50 PM
illini43 illini43 is offline
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

No. This play is fine.
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Old 02-16-2006, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

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No. This play is fine.

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Old 02-16-2006, 06:55 PM
runout_mick runout_mick is offline
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

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jonnyquest x bets $1,900

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I'd either raise 1200-1500, or go all-in when the action first gets to you.


I also fold when the second limper goes all-in, because you can see on the hand history he has aces. You don't want to call an all-in with kings when they have aces.
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Old 02-16-2006, 11:00 PM
salanm salanm is offline
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

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jonnyquest x bets $1,900

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I'd either raise 1200-1500, or go all-in when the action first gets to you.


I also fold when the second limper goes all-in, because you can see on the hand history he has aces. You don't want to call an all-in with kings when they have aces.

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ummmmmmm, im quite confused with this post... at best... how do u ever fold kings in this position, with this amount of chips... EVER?? yup, i wudda just pushed with it straight away, picked up blinds at worst, but either way, you were fightin a losing battle. so, nothing would've helped in this situation - happens, infrequently, but happens. i'm just really really puzzled, how anyone can even consider folding this
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Old 02-16-2006, 11:05 PM
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

This is a pretty straight forward hand. there arent too many other ways to play it. Just try to get your money in preflop.
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:20 AM
runout_mick runout_mick is offline
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

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jonnyquest x bets $1,900

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I'd either raise 1200-1500, or go all-in when the action first gets to you.


I also fold when the second limper goes all-in, because you can see on the hand history he has aces. You don't want to call an all-in with kings when they have aces.

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ummmmmmm, im quite confused with this post... at best... how do u ever fold kings in this position, with this amount of chips... EVER?? yup, i wudda just pushed with it straight away, picked up blinds at worst, but either way, you were fightin a losing battle. so, nothing would've helped in this situation - happens, infrequently, but happens. i'm just really really puzzled, how anyone can even consider folding this

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Sorry salanm, I didn't mean to mislead anyone. I was trying, not entirely successfully it seems, to suggest that this post was a tad results oriented. Of course you want all of your chips in with this hand, the more the merrier.

I'll try to post more responsibly in the future, but it's soooo darn hard.

Hope this clarifies things...

Edit:
My suggestion of raising 1200-1500 was legit. A raise of 1900 tells any thinking opponent that you will not fold to a push. This is NOT the message we want to send. We WANT them to think they can steal from us, hence a bet that doesn't look as committing as the 1900 does.
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Old 02-16-2006, 11:14 PM
Max Weinberg Max Weinberg is offline
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

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I also fold when the second limper goes all-in, because you can see on the hand history he has aces. You don't want to call an all-in with kings when they have aces.


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Love it.
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Old 02-16-2006, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

I fold all pocket pairs here that aren't hitting sets on the river.
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Old 02-16-2006, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: Was this hand played wrong? KK

i open fold kings nowadays. Nothing but bad comes from them.
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