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Old 03-20-2007, 02:18 PM
Rounder 24/7 Rounder 24/7 is offline
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Default *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!





Any advice would be great!!! I dont wanna suck over the next 10k hands.
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Old 03-20-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

FWIW: My stats at the same level 7K hands +1,2 BB/Hand. Mainly differs on turnaggression. I have a turn AF of 1.6 and a total AF of 1.4. I see that you are more agressive on the turn than on the flop. Is it possible that you can be overagressive on the turn and losing many BB there?
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

Your stats look decent. It looks like you have a few pretty minor preflop leaks like open limping in EP, but these are pretty small and inconsequential.

Based on your previous hand posts, it seems like what you need the most work on is postflop play. In general, you need to be finding those thinner value bets to collect extra when you have the best hand (and maybe also find some spots to induce bluffs) and you should semibluff less. Some of your semibluffs are pure spews, in that they have no chance of folding out better hands, so you end up pumping the pot with the worst hand. From your aggression factor stats, it is possible you are making too many free showdown raises when you should be just calling down. Overall, your turn AF seems too high which could mean a lot of things. You might not be calling turn raises loose enough, you might be raising in spots where you should be calling or folding. Can't really tell from stats alone.

Overall, the number one thing you should work on is hand reading. It looks like you are a decent Level 0 player [how to play your own cards], but your WR will increase significantly when you think better on the first level [what range of hands does my opponent have and how does that affect my action on the current street?].

Good luck!
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

Since your last reply to me about not paying enough attention to what other players may have I've really started to give it more thought. However Im not so sure how to adjust my play towards different player types. I think thats something Im really lacking and consequently makes reading hands that much tougher. Take the PT stats for instance, if Im up against a player that has VP$IP 30%+ does that signify that he's a loose player? Whats considered a tight player in 6 max. 20 or below? Also with the pfr% .. what % of their hands must they be raising for them to be considered aggressive or is it based soley on their AF? If someone could give me a break down of what stats "generally" represent what kind of style somebody might be playing I think I could adjust myself to them more appropriately. I understand these stats are meant to taken as an indication and not supposed to be independently realied upon. however I feel that Im at a loose end as to what they mean right now and think I would really benifit from understanding them better.

Thanks for the responses so far also. Really do appreciate the advice.

Cheers guys!
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Old 03-20-2007, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

I find the most important categories to classify opponents begin with
1. Loose/Tight. Dont get too focused on exact numbers more get a feel for a continuum.
2. Passive/Aggressive
3. Tricky/Str8tforward

I find these to be the most important categories.

Secondary classifications include:
1. Defends blinds strongly/gives up easy
2. Steals alot/steals alittle
3. Donk bets good hands/ donk bet bluffs and donks weak hands
4. preflop play v. postflop play (some players are very passive preflop but aggressive postflop, others are loose/weak preflop but play better postflop, some are tight preflop but battle to the bitter end with AQ UI every time, etc)

Also don't think about the aggression numbers so much as getting a feel for what they mean and when aggression is used. These numbers can be very high for someone who plays raise or fold strategy or comparatively lower for someone who shows down alot sensing value in somewhat marginal hands.

Next time you play I would suggest taking notes on everybody at least for the first 3 categories I listed. This will lead to improved seat selection and better results. For a good read on this subject I would get the psychology of poker by alan schoonmaker(think i got his name right?).
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

These look close to textbook so you could be running bad.

I used to play 28/18 at 2/4 but I got sick of the variance. Those few extra marginal hands meant I always seemed to be out there when the crazy donks caught their 83 runner-runner boats.

I tightened up to 25/17 and I'm paying 0.25 BB/100 less in rake. Win rate is up overall from 0.5 to about 1.3. But that's over 20k hands, so like you I'm still looking at a sample size that I'm not sure I should believe in.
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:21 PM
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I like the high af on turn my af steadily goes down wish i could get turn and river af higher. From someone who folds the BB/steal to much I am going to say you are folding BB way too much. Crap run games are harder you will get better. Other note ur win % with high card seems low dont know what that means though.
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

probably means Im calling down too much UI right?
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

I would steal with any 2 against you OP. Loosen up in the BB a bit.
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Old 03-20-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: *STATS* - Help! I dont want to be a losing player!!

Am I seriously playing too tight in the blinds?
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