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Old 01-13-2007, 02:26 AM
elcheapo elcheapo is offline
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Default Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

Opponent seemed passive, he has aa,qq,aq or axkh here every time ??

PokerStars Game #7908721984: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/01/13 - 01:01:13 (ET)
Table 'Asmodeus II' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tlatoani ($197 in chips)
Seat 2: Dreamer2967 ($105.85 in chips)
Seat 3: the_main ($190.65 in chips)
Seat 5: elcheapo23 ($183 in chips)
Seat 6: macemacd ($57.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Kingcovey ($458.10 in chips)
Seat 8: taylorbb ($184.90 in chips)
the_main: posts small blind $1
elcheapo23: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to elcheapo23 [Ks As]
macemacd: folds
Happy0228 joins the table at seat #9
Kingcovey: folds
taylorbb: folds
tlatoani: folds
Dreamer2967: raises $2 to $4
the_main: raises $8 to $12
DooMeRFD leaves the table
elcheapo23: calls $10
Dreamer2967: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Qh 3h Ah]
the_main: bets $20
elcheapo23: calls $20
Dreamer2967: calls $20
*** TURN *** [Qh 3h Ah] [4s]
the_main: checks
elcheapo23: bets $73
Dreamer2967: folds
the_main: raises $85.65 to $158.65 and is all-in

Villian didn't seem very active. Half pot it on flop and give up. He instacalled reraise

PokerStars Game #7908835179: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/01/13 - 01:08:59 (ET)
Table 'Acrux V' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: kickndnuts ($67.90 in chips)
Seat 2: capaneo ($381 in chips)
Seat 3: cjdstable ($135.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Prairie Hawk ($195.20 in chips)
Seat 5: elcheapo23 ($175.60 in chips)
Seat 6: bdubhc ($194 in chips)
Seat 7: Strazztown ($38.50 in chips)
Seat 8: vegas415 ($160.70 in chips)
Seat 9: TreyHands ($531 in chips)
bdubhc: posts small blind $1
Strazztown: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to elcheapo23 [Qh Qc]
vegas415: folds
TreyHands: folds
kickndnuts: folds
capaneo: folds
cjdstable: folds
Prairie Hawk: raises $6 to $8
elcheapo23: raises $20 to $28
bdubhc: folds
Strazztown: folds
Prairie Hawk: calls $20
*** FLOP *** [7c Kh 8s]
Prairie Hawk: checks
elcheapo23: checks
*** TURN *** [7c Kh 8s] [As]
Prairie Hawk: bets $36
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

Fold both.
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Old 01-13-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

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Old 01-13-2007, 02:40 AM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

Hand 1 - reraise preflop enough to represent a big pair. Fold if villain pushes preflop. I don't like calling and playing multi-way with Dreamer behind you. Get Dreamer out of the hand and go heads up w/ initiative vs SB.

Hand 2- Make a continuation bet at the flop. Give up if he calls and bets the turn. Your QQ still might be good heads up with the K on the flop. You have only 2 outs to improve. So bet to win vs hands you beat, and to find out if QQ is no good and cut your loses otherwise. As played, the A hit him if the K didn't, so you can fold. But what if the turn was a low brick and he bets? At that point, he could be betting any pair, any draw, a weak king, or anything that would have folded to a cb on the flop.
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

1. This was not an aggressive player so aq aj are out of his range. I don't even think tens are there so he has ak,jj-AA, so I guess the best I can hope for is a low flop and he has ak or overcards to his pair.
2. I think the way the hand played he had ak,KK,or AA because if he has JJ-10's the ace would look like my card after I checked flop
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Old 01-13-2007, 03:10 AM
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Default Re: Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

hand 1: check the turn? i'm going broke here if i am gonna bet the turn

hand 2: fold obv. betting the flop looks pretty terrible unless there were very specific metagame reasons.
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Old 01-13-2007, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

1. You say he's not aggro, so it seems AQ isn't a likely hand, as you said. If you're daring enough, you could even raise his flop bet to see where you are. But calling to probe on the turn isn't a bad move either. It's an obvious fold there; check-raise usually equals death. The way the hand was played, it looks like QQ.

2. No cont bet? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] You have position on him as well, which is great. Take advantage of the check and bet once again, to see where you are. Checking gives virtually no info. I doubt he had KK or AA there, because he would have reraised you preflop if he were a decent player. AK, I don't think either, since he didn't bet the flop. My guess is that he sensed weakness on the flop, and either hit an A or bet the A scare card on the turn with a weaker hand.
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Old 01-13-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

Well, if you have ak, aa or kk its kind of standard to call preflop, checkraise flop. Maybe not standard but pretty close. I took initiative with the rr and so I get checked to.
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Old 01-13-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: Couple hands that got to me NL 200 Stars

i didnt even look at the second hand.

fold both---both of these guys, especially the first one, are total fugging nits.
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