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Old 11-01-2006, 02:09 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Simple KK 4-betting Question

Reraiser is jjberns, a regular at NL100. Decent TAG, not an idiot, not making a preflop move here. The non-PSR is probably a tell that says I want some action. What's my optimal play?

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $116.70
CO: $100
Button: $229.35
Hero: $118.65
BB: $71.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $10</font>, Button folds, Hero...
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:15 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK 4-betting Question

call and c/r AI on most flops, c/c A high flops and fold to further aggression.

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Old 11-01-2006, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK 4-betting Question

If he thinks you will 4-bet with less than you have then do it. If he thinks it can only be AA/KK then call.
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK 4-betting Question

Reraise OOP w/ KK unless you have a good read that you can trap him easily. There are a good number of flops that will mess you up so get the money in now, when it seems like he wants to play with his marginal raise.
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK 4-betting Question

By calling, we invite UTG along....is that not an issue?
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK 4-betting Question

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By calling, we invite UTG along....is that not an issue?

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tbh it's not a huge issue, some may say it is, but it will make the pfr-r play more straightforward so it helps.

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Old 11-01-2006, 02:41 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: Simple KK 4-betting Question

I either make a PSR 4bet or 4bet shove (if he 3bets at all light)
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:54 PM
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I either make a PSR 4bet or 4bet shove (if he 3bets at all light)

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Yeah, I did the PSR. I think pushing and calling is better than that in hindsight. At least I hit my draw. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $116.70
CO: $100
Button: $229.35
Hero: $118.65
BB: $71.75

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $10</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $34.5</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($73.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $84.15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO calls all-in $65.5</font>.
Uncalled bets: $18.65 returned to Hero.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($204.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $204.5)


River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($204.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $204.5)


Results:
Final pot: $204.5
<font color="#ffffff">CO showed Ah As</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Kh Kc</font>
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK 4-betting Question

looks good
pretty standard flop to get stacked by AA on
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Old 11-01-2006, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: Simple KK 4-betting Question

That turn was just sick [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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