Q9s marginal hand play

brentlip · #1 07-25-2006, 02:10 PM

MP3 is a TAG with 10.4/6/1.9 after 719 hands. BB is terrible. He'll bluff anything and shows down a lot of high card hands.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB bets, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero ???

Bodizapha · #2 07-25-2006, 02:13 PM

I wouldn't be too worried about BB, but MP3 is a little of a concern. I certainly like a call here and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing. MP3 could very well be holding AQ. I'd probably just call and weigh my options on the turn.

KingOtter · #3 07-25-2006, 02:15 PM

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and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing.

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Bet/raise for value and because you have the best hand. Any 'info' you get is tainted.

Aaron W. · #4 07-25-2006, 02:19 PM

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and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing.

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Bet/raise for value and because you have the best hand. Any 'info' you get is tainted.

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I don't know how often hero is ahead of the guy who only plays 11% of his hands.

KingOtter · #5 07-25-2006, 02:24 PM

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and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing.

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Bet/raise for value and because you have the best hand. Any 'info' you get is tainted.

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I don't know how often hero is ahead of the guy who only plays 11% of his hands.

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Since he pf-raises 6% of them, you know he doesn't have the best ones... he has the borderline ones. Maybe KQ, but he has a high aggression, so I'd expect a raise out of him.

KO

Aaron W. · #6 07-25-2006, 02:38 PM

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and maybe even a raise to see where you are standing.

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Bet/raise for value and because you have the best hand. Any 'info' you get is tainted.

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I don't know how often hero is ahead of the guy who only plays 11% of his hands.

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Since he pf-raises 6% of them, you know he doesn't have the best ones... he has the borderline ones. Maybe KQ, but he has a high aggression, so I'd expect a raise out of him.

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I'd rather keep BB betting and see what STAG does on the turn. For a player that tight, the only hands that he can hold that you currently beat is probably KJ and MAYBE KT (JJ probably gets raised by 6% PFR).

Keep in mind that high AF comes from a combination of betting AND calling. If villain is weak postflop and does a lot of folding, then his fewer calls will drive the aggression up.

KingOtter · #7 07-25-2006, 02:14 PM

Raise sounds good to me. If MP3 had a Q he'd probably raise the flop with a 1.9 af.

kerowo · #8 07-25-2006, 02:15 PM

What exact flop where you hoping for with this? What hands with a Q does a TAG limp with? I'd figure him for KJ or a pp that didn't hit. I think you raise here and hope BB has a T and 3 bets to get rid of MP3. But really, this is probably a fold pre-flop.

Aaron W. · #9 07-25-2006, 02:15 PM

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MP3 is a TAG with 10.4/6/1.9 after 719 hands.

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We really need new labels. Maybe STAG would be better (Super tight).

I'd just call and see what happens on the turn. You've got position on the STAG and the donktastipotamus, so you might as well use it.

charlie_t_jr · #10 07-25-2006, 02:15 PM

I'd raise with what's likely the best hand.