Movie Incongruities/Lucky Coincidences

tuq · #1 07-06-2006, 11:07 PM

I'm new to this forum, if this has been recently done please lock/delete/ban me. Thanks.

In the Die Hard thread, someone mentioned how very helpful it was to the plot that in DH2 that it was snowing/dark. Yeah, good point as it was sort of necessary to pull off a plan that they had a very tight deadline for.

Also, in the movie The Fugitive, Dr. Nichols helping out Dr. Kimble with money, not turning him in, etc., aided the plot but it made no sense at all as it just allowed Kimble more time to build his case against...Dr. Nichols.

Dunno, I'm sure there are many others but I thought I'd be interested in any participation/examples. Thanks.

#2 07-07-2006, 01:38 PM

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Also, in the movie The Fugitive, Dr. Nichols helping out Dr. Kimble with money, not turning him in, etc., aided the plot but it made no sense at all as it just allowed Kimble more time to build his case against...Dr. Nichols.

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This always bothered me.

I'll try to think of more as I know I have been frustrated on more than one occasion while watching a movie.

DrewDevil · #3 07-07-2006, 02:28 PM

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Also, in the movie The Fugitive, Dr. Nichols helping out Dr. Kimble with money, not turning him in, etc., aided the plot but it made no sense at all as it just allowed Kimble more time to build his case against...Dr. Nichols.

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This always bothered me.

I'll try to think of more as I know I have been frustrated on more than one occasion while watching a movie.

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It might have been more suspicious for Nichols to refuse to give Kimble $200 and tell him to piss off.

Plus, it took a lot of detective work to connect Nichols with the death. First, Kimble was after the one-armed man, then the trail led to the dead doctor (Lentz?), and then he had to go to the lab and get a lot more help to figure out Nichols was involved. It's reasonable to conclude Nichols would not have thought Kimble would be able to dig so deeply.

tuq · #4 07-08-2006, 12:08 AM

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It might have been more suspicious for Nichols to refuse to give Kimble $200 and tell him to piss off.

Plus, it took a lot of detective work to connect Nichols with the death. First, Kimble was after the one-armed man, then the trail led to the dead doctor (Lentz?), and then he had to go to the lab and get a lot more help to figure out Nichols was involved. It's reasonable to conclude Nichols would not have thought Kimble would be able to dig so deeply.

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The correct answer - albeit one that would have made the movie suck - is to give him money and then call an anonymous tip in regarding what was (the way the movie presented it) the most wanted man in Chicago.

You make a good point in your second paragraph, but the movie made Kimble out to be a very resourceful saint with a lot of people who would cover for him; Nichols would have known this already via character witnesses at his trial.

Reading too much into a movie I really enjoyed, of course, but this was the one glaring plot hole to me (aside from surviving the jump off the dam basically uninjured).

JCool · #5 07-08-2006, 12:34 AM

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Reading too much into a movie I really enjoyed, of course, but this was the one glaring plot hole to me (aside from surviving the jump off the dam basically uninjured).

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Ewww. Didnt you see that nasty flesh wound he self treated at the hospital? And talk about plot holes, yeah he's a vascalur surgeon or whatever, but come on, there's no way he can self treat that wound and it looked like that wound needed a lot more extensive treatment then just a shot in the butt.

KAknight · #6 07-08-2006, 12:44 AM

In the Matrix. Neo is asleep at his desk. "Neo, wake up." Neo does wake up. Then he hits Ctrl+X.

That is the shortcut for cut. That bugs the crap out of me everytime I see it.

ThomasPHoolery · #7 07-07-2006, 01:48 PM

There is one huge one for me, and it comes in, of all movies, Sideways. I love the film, should probably write a review of it, etc. but one thing that bugs the hell out of me is when Jack and Miles go into the winery where Stephanie works, Jack just throws out there "Hey do you happen to know Maya, this waitress from the Hitching Post?" Of course, they're good friends, and provide the perfect combo to offset Jack and Miles.

Maybe I'm just unfamiliar w/ the California wine country, and this sort of thing makes sense, but to me, in a movie where every other little detail is so well thought through, so convincing, I just find this a little too far fetched, and gets me every time.

OrigamiSensei · #8 07-07-2006, 02:28 PM

Actually, the Sideways thing you speak of is completely plausible since the winemaker community in Santa Barbara County is pretty small and very tightly connected. Gray Hartley and Frank Ostini own the Hitching Post restaurants and also have their own wine Hitching Post wine label. That other winery people would know people working at the Hitching Post is entirely believable.

ThomasPHoolery · #9 07-07-2006, 02:37 PM

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Actually, the Sideways thing you speak of is completely plausible since the winemaker community in Santa Barbara County is pretty small and very tightly connected. Gray Hartley and Frank Ostini own the Hitching Post restaurants and also have their own wine Hitching Post wine label. That other winery people would know people working at the Hitching Post is entirely believable.

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This makes me feel so much better about life. Seriously, this is like you telling me "No, no Santa IS real."

Triumph36 · #10 07-07-2006, 02:52 PM

In one of the most underrated films of the last 10 years, there is something that bugs me about Ronin - near the end, somehow the bearded guy at the villa is able to find out where the Irish terrorists are hiding out with Gregor and tells Robert Deniro and Jean Reno, not the authorities, etc. It always seemed a conveinent deus ex machina so there could be another sweet car chase.