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Old 07-15-2005, 10:45 PM
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Default What do you guys \"read\"?

Hey all,

If you're like me, one of your biggest weaknesses is getting good reads. I like many probably depend too much on PT/GT+ to provide my reads for me. I'd like to here what you guys normally look out for, what reads do you make, etc. Here's typically what I'm keeping on eye out for -

1) What does Villain limp in with?
2) What does V raise pre-flop?
3) What does V cold-call?
4) What will he bet on the flop with (with or without a pre-flop raiser)?
5) Will V bet when checked to him in late position on the flop or turn?
6) What will he check-raise?
7) What will he "wake-up" with?
8) what will he call on the river?
9) Is he tricky on the river?

Quite a bit I know but I'm looking for stuff out of the norm. So I won't take a note that someone will c/r on the turn with a set but I will note that he will with something like a flush draw. So what types of things are you guys looking out for?
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:14 PM
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Mostly fiction. Well, not fiction, but literature. Although, I've been known to dabble in some biographies. I'm a big fan of Faulkner.
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: What do you guys \"read\"?

I don't take many notes on 1-3. I mostly rely on my HUD for that info. I'll make a note if I see something really odd, or that differs from what one would expect based on stats. #4 and #8, though, are probably what I have my best notes on. The rest I'm usually making notes on, particularly if there's something out of line. It sounds like we're pretty much on the same page.
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: What do you guys \"read\"?

One really important note I make of TAGs regard a couple of common but horrendous preflop errors:

Open limping in LP.

Not reraising to isolate a loose preflop raiser, but cold calling instead.
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: What do you guys \"read\"?

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One really important note I make of TAGs regard a couple of common but horrendous preflop errors:

Open limping in LP.



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Open limping late position nice with stronger hands especially if blinds play tight.
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: What do you guys \"read\"?

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One really important note I make of TAGs regard a couple of common but horrendous preflop errors:

Open limping in LP.



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Open limping late position nice with stronger hands especially if blinds play tight.

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Blind-stealing nicer with weaker hands if the blinds play tight.
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Old 07-15-2005, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: What do you guys \"read\"?

I check hand histories very often to see what players mucked. I'm looking to see who I can value bet and how low I can go.

I really don't care too much about pf play reads. Loose players are relatively tough to put on a hand until the flop anyways so I wait and see what the texture of the flop and and think about their probable range given their tightness and aggression pf. Tracking actual hands is a bit much because you don't get that many hands to SD to be terribly accurate before they leave.

I usually try to figure out what the source of the aggression was. I'm looking for things out of the ordinary that might cost me a pot by making e fold. Do they bet draws? How far do they go with these bets? Do they bet middle or bottom pair on the flop. Do they take shots at the pfr when the flop comes all low cards? When they wake up on the turn did they do it with a made hand or a hand the added outs like a flush draw? Do they bluff? Do they bluff raise? Do they bluff C/R? These are all things I'm most wary of because I am capable of folding in many situations but reads will prevent me from folding incorrectly.
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Old 07-16-2005, 01:51 AM
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You might want to consider getting the Poker Ace HUD at http://pokeracesoftware.com

It'll automatically show mucked hands w/o having to crack open the HH.
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Old 07-16-2005, 02:39 AM
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PV does it for me
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Old 07-16-2005, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: What do you guys \"read\"?

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You might want to consider getting the Poker Ace HUD at http://pokeracesoftware.com

It'll automatically show mucked hands w/o having to crack open the HH.

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Holy cow this is awesome. At .25/.50 knowing someone has checkraised ever is usefull sometimes, and I wish GT+ could display this. Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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