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07-15-2005, 09:41 AM
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The big Fossilman hand of yesterday
Mike Matusow made a comment to Card Player about the hand that crippled Greg yesterday- I was wondering if it was as out-of-line a play as Mike made it out to be.
"some IDIOT loses his mind and tries his hardest to go broke and..I think that bothers me more than anything" AND "How bout throwin your hand away when you flop no pair and no draw, ever heard of doin that?" I'm assuming Mike is referring to this hand: " Ayhan Alsancak has the button in seat 5, Raymer raises, and Kanter calls. The flop comes 6c-5d-3h, and there's a bet and a call. The turn card is the 7h, Kanter bets $600,000, and the two players are quickly all in. Raymer shows pocket kings (Kd-Kh), and Kanter has Qh-Jh. Kanter has a flush draw, and needs to catch a heart to win the pot. The river card is the 2h, and Kanter makes his flush to double up through Greg Raymer." Does anyone have more details on the preflop and flop betting, along with the turn back-and-forth? Because it's possible Greg was trying to steal on the flop. Could Kanter realistically represent the straight(s) here? Any chance Fossilman is making a move on the turn, or reads Kanter as doing so (rather than a semi-bluff)? 
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#2
07-15-2005, 09:46 AM
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Re: The big Fossilman hand of yesterday
This just shows how hard it is to get to the last 27 of 5,800 without taking a major suckout. Think of all the times you got sucked out on playing a 5+.50 torney with 400 people.
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07-15-2005, 09:51 AM
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Re: The big Fossilman hand of yesterday
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The flop comes 6c-5d-3h, and there's a bet and a call. The turn card is the 7h, Kanter bets $600,000, and the two players are quickly all in. [/ QUOTE ] Sigh - this is why I don't think I'll ever understand the pros' plays. If I went all-in with KK and one opponent on a board like this in a $5 SNG, I would invariably be shown a 4, and I wouldn't think to blame bad luck as much as my own stupidity for pushing all-in with one flippin' pair when there was a one-card straight on board. I just don't get it.
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07-15-2005, 10:36 AM
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Re: The big Fossilman hand of yesterday
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Sigh - this is why I don't think I'll ever understand the pros' plays. If I went all-in with KK and one opponent on a board like this in a $5 SNG, I would invariably be shown a 4, and I wouldn't think to blame bad luck as much as my own stupidity for pushing all-in with one flippin' pair when there was a one-card straight on board. [/ QUOTE ] There wasn't a 1-card straight on board. Cardplayer got the board wrong (again).
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#8
07-15-2005, 10:50 AM
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Re: The turn board cards were reported incorrectly?
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The turn wasn't the 4-card heart/straight possibility? What WAS the correct board? [/ QUOTE ] It was pretty ragged. I think it was like 963 with a 4 on the turn or something. At least that's what Raymer said in his cardplayer interview.
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#9
07-15-2005, 04:00 PM
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Re: The turn board cards were reported incorrectly?
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It was pretty ragged. I think it was like 963 with a 4 on the turn or something. At least that's what Raymer said in his cardplayer interview. [/ QUOTE ] Funny, in the interview I watched he said it was 356 or something like that.
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#10
07-15-2005, 02:00 PM
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Re: The big Fossilman hand of yesterday
in live poker, there is something called reads. you should become familiar with that term.
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