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Old 03-24-2006, 06:07 AM
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Default Good Small Stakes Play or Spewage

I am thinking I was spewing here, but I just read Small Stakes Hold'em again, and was remembering the part about trying to see 2 cards cheaply with weak draws, buying outs, etc...

Foxwood 5/10$ with full kill, this is a kill pot, so we're playing $10/20 and I am posting the kill.
The players:

Drunky claims to be a quite good tournament player who has been drinking and wants to have some fun, and since he has sat down sometime ago has been raising every hand pre-flop without looking. His post-flop play seems fine, actually, but he is donating big time.0

Tighty: Not playing much, has won several pots without showing down.

Mousey: Calls and folds most of the time

Not So Rocky old Nit: A-3 offsuit seems to be his favorite card, and for some reason he has fallen in love with the check in the dark which has cost him bets on several rivers where he made 2 pair. Seems to consistently miss bets.

Calling Station: This player seemed decent before Drunky showed up, but is combatting drunkys strategy by calling most hands, even when he needs to cold call 3 bets. He keeps pulling cash out.

Mousy Posts Small Blind $2
Not So Rocky old Nit posts big blind $5
UTG Tighty calls $10
UTG +1 Drunky raises to $20- not looking
2 folds
Calling Station calls $20
Hero in CO has (Ac5c) posts $10 kill and calls $10 raise
Mousey in SB calls $20
Not So Rocky old Nit in BB calls $20
Tighty calls $10
Flop:
Qs, 8h, 5d
Mousey Checks
Not so Rocky checks
Tighty checks
Drunky bets $10
Calling Station folds
Hero Raises to $20
Mousey calls $20
Not so Rocky calls $20
Tighty folds
Drunky Raises to $30
Hero calls $10
Mousey calls $10
Not so Rocky calls $10
Turn:
2d
Mousey checks
Not so Rocky checks
Drunky Checks
Hero Checks

The 3 bet then granting the free card that I already paid for on the flop was odd; I didn't believe Drunky, but he could easily have been ahead because my hand was pretty bad. When I was called by the 2 blinds, I was not feeling good. Drawing too slim for this play to work?
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Old 03-24-2006, 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Good Small Stakes Play or Spewage

You should have used that extra aggression preflop rather than on the flop. 3-betting is much more likely to let you play in a smaller field, and you're only up against a blind raiser and a player who calls nearly any two. You also have posted a blind so a 3-bet doesn't cost you as much.

On the flop your hope of raising for a free card is slim against an aggressive player like the Drunk. However I still like a raise, but not to take a free card. You stand to have the best hand against the Drunk, and you can cut the blinds' odds down to 6.5-1. That might be bad enough that they'll fold if they missed the flop entirely. Once you get 3-bet, I like your play.
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Old 03-24-2006, 03:08 PM
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Default Re: Good Small Stakes Play or Spewage

thanks. Just wanted to maximize hope of winning big pot.
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Good Small Stakes Play or Spewage

If anyone cares, we checked through the turn, the river is the Ace of Diamonds. Checked to me, I bet $20, and am called by Mousey who shows Q-J offsuit. He looks disgusted and incredulous and leaves the table.
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Old 03-25-2006, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: Good Small Stakes Play or Spewage

Yeah flop raise is must, push out the other hands, there's a good chance your hand is good vs drunky. I'd say the raise here is about hand protection.

Just to clarify concepts,
You're not buying any outs here as nobody w AQ or A8 is folding.
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