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Old 07-15-2005, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: The big Fossilman hand of yesterday

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IMO, the only really bad thing that Greg's opponent did was make that size turn raise. If he's going to call Greg's re-raise, he's better off pushing there. In fact, he may well move Greg off of KK with a push there, depending on Greg's read. The guy made an incorrect read based on Greg's flop bet that Greg was weak. Had Greg actually had something weaker and had folded on the turn, would there be this uproar about this hand? I doubt it.

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If my math is correct, he also didn't have the odds to call Greg's push.

There was 200K+300K+1600K+100K ~ 2200K or so in the pot before Greg's raise. If he started with 1800-1900K then he has about 800K left when Greg pushes. so hes getting 3000K:800K or about 3.75:1 on his call.

He has to know his Qs and Js are no good here. But then again, Negreanu has talked about making "bad" calls in spots like this if folding will leave you crippled, so maybe its still correct.

Edit: I guess he also has 3 draws to a chop (assuming Greg doesn't have a made straight) so he only needs 3.6-1 to call. So I guess the final call is fine.
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