[BlueSmurf]

Hey Andy

I agree with you on Kammen and West. I think Adams' book is quite good and a great intro along with Reese's chapter in SS1. TOP is mandatory of course, and a re-read of this along with 7CSFAP after 10.000 hands at low limits should push anybody in the right direction.

I've tried some 7CSFAP concepts out at the $1/$2 limits and the success is minimal. For instance, raising 3rd with a 3-flush and two overcards to the board isn't winning the overcard outs for me, because nobody with anything folds. You must understand that at these limits, people chase OESDs against open trips, they don't care about paired door cards, and they chase with completely dead cards. This is great, because you can win at alarming rates. Undoubtedly, 7CSFAP is the book. I've read it several times and it is amazing for thinking about the game, but it doesn't give you the ABC approach that beginners need and that takes the money at the low limits. Stud is played much worse than HE below $3/$6.

I'm not the greatest HE player ever, but I'm running at 3.5BB/100 at $1/$2. For stud at the same limit, it's more than three times that.

Since you're an accomplished stud player yourself, I think you underestimate the practical advise that new players need. Adams will give them that. 7CSFAP is what catapults them into true stud players.

Cheers,

Smurf