Re: Help -- I have NEVER seen this happen before.
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it was noticed that the dealer had not burned a card...
The flop was destroyed cards shuffled and the flop re dealt
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Terrible ruling.
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What should happen here?
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Let's pretend a floor was called at the proper time. Per the lead post these seem to be the relevant facts:
"Flop is J 8 3
Lady checks, other limper checks, CO bets $20, I raise to $70, Lady pushes all in for ~$150, one fold, CO folds, I call.
Lady turns over Q Q
The turn is 9 and the river is 2, lady says, "Nice hand." "Thanks," I reply, getting ready to rake a pot of about $350.
"Wait a second," the dealer says. "I think I made a mistake. I think I burned one too many before the turn."
Before I can even respond, he turns the turn and river cards face down and fishes two cards out of the muck.
"These are the correct turn and river," he says. And one of the cards he turns over is the Q.
Immediately, the old lady reaches for the pile of chips. "Wait a second, what's going on?" I ask heatedly. "You dealt the turn and river!"
"I know," the dealer responds. "But for some reason I didn't think anyone was betting the flop, so I got ready to deal the turn and I burned one. Then people started betting, and then I burned an extra card when we went to the turn."
If there was no action after the dealer made the mistake (and essentially there wasn't here) AND one could be 100% sure that the cards could be replaced correctly (not sure at all here given the dealer was fishing in the muck) then the floor could fix things.
But even if the correct cards could be clearly identified if action followed the mistake (e.g., there was another better (not all in) involved after the turn) then the mistake is "accepted" by the fact that action followed the mistake. In this case the turn/river cannot be corrected.
~ Rick
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