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My initial response is, it's a fold.

I can see now this is like WA/WB. If his hand range pre-flop is TT+ and AK, then

AA, 3, behind, 2 outs
KK, 6, behind, 5 outs
QQ, 1, behind, 0 outs
JJ, 3, behind, 0 outs
TT, 6 ahead, he has 2 outs
AK, 12, ahead, he has 3 outs

ahead of 18, behind 13. he's not b/c'ing this flop with TT, and he doesn't do this with AK a lot? He is either c/f'ing this turn (no value in betting) or c/r'ing (we lose 2 bets calling down a lot and winning rarely, or lose one bet and the pot, folding). I think I change my mind. The only thing that might shift this is if he caps with AJs and AQo, or KQs? I don't recall Shadow being as lagardly as me in this game.

Also now I think on the flop I just call and re-eval on the turn depending on the board, and whether he bets or checks.


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this was my exact thinking on the hand. You basically said everything I was trying to say, only more clearly. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I didn't think AK b/c I don't see him playing it that way, AK [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] maybe, but I think he 3bets the flop with it, and he is not check/raising the turn with it.

The only part I am not sure about is this:

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Also now I think on the flop I just call and re-eval on the turn depending on the board, and whether he bets or checks.

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what is your reasoning, and what hands do you think he would cap pf and lead this flop with that would make us not want to raise.