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Old 03-23-2006, 02:26 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: Sort of Theory Post

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Hi Bobbo,

Basically, you disagree with my premise that a bet here is weak much more than it is strong. From there, we don't have many places we can go.

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true. But I'm pretty much hovering over the % it is a real hand (that wont be folded) vs a semibluff, marginal hand (which is folded) or outright bluff. this is tough to evaluate [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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You mentioned that there are few gutshots on the A83 board--2 things: I said in my post that the bet could be a gutshot, a pair, or an Ace. So 45, 89, 99, A7--these are all possibilities IMO. The 2nd thing is that it's a theory post, so I don't think Adam meant to inquire about your action on the dryest board of all time only; I could be wrong about that, but in any case I was thinking of a generic "dry flop".


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true

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As far as floating with any two goes, we're dealing with 2 arguments here: what to do with AT, and what to do with dikshit. Detailing my reasons for raising with dikshit would take longer than I want to spend, but basically, it would be to balance the legit raises (such as the AT/AK/top two etc) I'll be making.

Like Strassa, I love it when I know that if I lead a certain flop into a certain pre-flop raiser, he will not raise me NO MATTER WHAT HE HOLDS. He'll call with AT/ JJ to see what I do; he'll call with junk to take the pot away on the turn if I check; he'll call with AA to raise me on the turn. That makes a bet with a gutshot or bottom pair look fairly attractive, especially if you throw in that I can possibly read his bet size/action if I check the turn and still win the pot sometimes.

Anyway, I like where this thread has gone; nice posts Adam, Bobbo, et al.

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Hmm, I still wont budge on this point. It takes far too long for a metagame to develop - (so for strassa at 25/50, it makes sense, as he really knows his players - but 3/6 to 10/20, the player pool is so large most players will not learn of your exploitable strategies until you've already won alot of skalansky dough) so in isolation, which is the "right player often," floating w/ the junk is still better then openly raising the flop, even to disguise your hand strength (as in when you do raise AT)

I like where it's gone too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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