[Dr_Doctr]

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I agree with the people who said you shouldn't raise the turn if you don't want to play for stacks.

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I don't really think this is true at all. someone already said this earlier, but you can raise the turn hoping to get value out of AK/AQ/44 or whatever else because he is generally (maybe not with 44) just calling your turn raise and now the pot is nice and big on the river to get a few hundred BBs in value off him. Also the alternative is to just call him down with the third nuts which seems weak.

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You're right - I misread the size of the pot on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] . There is still room for a value/pot bloating raise here. So raising the turn and folding to the turn 3-bet is the play right? And if he just calls the raise VB the river and fold to a crai? That would be so sick to get crai on that line though - like the HSP moment.